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Dorothee

Dorothee

Germany

June 27, 2011

Yesterday I read an online discussion about forced marriage in Islam. The Muslim girl who opened this discussion tried to explain that saying that forced marriage is part of Islam would be as wrong as saying "Well, there are a lot of prostitutes in Christian countries, so the Bible obviously tells women that they shall gain their money by prostitution." Of course this Muslim girl may be right, but as it seems at the moment she lost against some xenophobe user who indeed blames the situation in countries like Afghanistan etc. on Islam, thus I just decided to write my own argumentation. The following is a list of countries and cultures that practice(d) forced marriage.

Yemen: When she was still a 10 year - old child Nojoud Ali's parents forced her to marry a man who was 20 years older than her. She didn't let them to this to her. Soon after her marriage she - and after all she still was just a child - ran away from him, took a taxi, drove to the next town and asked them to divorce her. Nobody in Yemen reacted surprised to hear that she got forced to marry him, no Yemeni reacted surprised to hear that her husband raped her, but people all over Yemen were astonished to hear that she did something against this. At least in the big city where she got divorced the situation seems to be different, because when the judge decided that she shall no longer be married to him the whole courtroom applauded. Meanwhile she goes to school.Another girl however was less lucky: Her judge said that she was too young to get divorced, so she had to put up a fight before she could axchieve her aim.In Hadscha ( Yemen ) a girl also had to endure a forced marriage with a man of 50 years and - according to the newspaper article that tells about this case - she became pregnant at the age of twelve. Of course she was much too young back then and since the day of her child's birth she suffers from hemorrhage and none ever told her what to do about this. She got forced to do so...When she screamed as she saw her future husband for the first time, her father threatened her and said she shouldn't try to alert the police...He threatened to kill his own daughter in case he'd have to go to prison for this.So far all tries to enforce a law that makes it possible to punish people who force their kids into marriage failed, but they still keep trying...

Iran: Mahtaab Bezadl (name changed) was still a teenager when her parents forced her to marry. She tried to argue with them, since she absolutely did not want to marry this man, but in the end she didn't have any choice but to flee. Through Greece she finally reached Germany, but the latter didn't accept her application of asylum and told her to go back to Greece where she would be homeless. Presuming the article that wrote about this case is still current several human rights activists still fight for her right to stay here.

Afghanistan: In this country men usually get away with rape. Islam forbids any form of extramarital sex - just like Judaism and Christianity - and thus there are many cases in which unmarried girls got raped and later got forced to marry the man who actually did this to them in order to prevent them from going to hell.

India: Although forced marriage is illegal in this country, it happens especially in urban areas that young girls get forced to marry men they don't even want to marry. In these villages forced marriage is an accepted way "for a girl to become an adult woman" and thus nobody would do something if he realized that his neighbour's, friend's whatsoever daughter is going to get forced to marry someone. Since not marrying your daughter at a very young age involves the risk that she may loose her virginity before marriage, some villagers even consider it to be inadmissible if one doesn't force his daughter to get married as soon as possible. Especially the destiny of five year - old Rajani ( I read about it in a newspaper called National Geographic. ) really touched me. Of course she didn't understand what was going on and she didn't even get to know her future husband before. It was almost heart - breaking to read that she even was too young to pull off her shirt in order to pull on her wedding dress or how she wasn't able to stay awake till he arrived and fell asleep. To top it all the groom even was drunk when he arrived! However the same magazine also describes that this boy himself got forced into this. - At least you can guess so, since the author mentions that he wasn't adult either. - and that in a lot of cases these marriages aren't made for the wealth of their children, but for financial reasons or to settle a family feud. That also explains why they guess that each year over 10.000 living in developing countries get forced into marriage. Here girls who still live with their parents are called "paya". Literally -translated this means "the property of somebody else". They even call the idea of marriage out of love rubbish, since not only in villages, but in many parts of India marriages get arranged between Families and not the two fiancés. After all marrying your girl to somebody is much cheaper than letting her achieve good education that would make it possible for her to achieve something better not to mention that by keeping girls locked up at home they at the same time make it impossible that they could loose their virginity... One Indian girl the author told about even was so desperate that she saw no other solution than to threaten her parents at first by calling the police than by threatening to use physical violence.Also the way the author Cynthia Gorney describes the following story makes me think that the following marriage wasn't voluntary either: A sheik showed this reporter his daughter who already had 10 children with her husband. When she got asked whether or not she liked being married to her husband, she said that she was happily married, but judging by the way the author described the look the two Indians shared, this wasn't quite true. In addition the sheik told about what a rubbish all this talking about the risks of teenage - pregnancy was and that the whole situation just got overdramatized by foreigners. He said that of course his daughter had been afraid of her first night with her husband, but that things like these were usual and that after all life still went on. Here it should be said that this night back then this young lady's groom was drunk as this newspaper - article made me guess... Nepal: A 16 year - old girl named Surita got forced to marry. Where she was born this actually is rather normal, but still she screamed and cried when they brought her to her future husband's village. Tunisia: I even have a personal example to tell you.

When my friend and her family went to Tunisia her elder sister befriended a Muslim boy there and I guess what the latter felt for her was more than friendship, because one day he went to this girl's mother ( her father wasn't with them on this trip ) and asked her how much to pay to get this girl. He didn't even ask his "girlfriend" and of course she refused! 

In Bukarest ( Romania ) a twelve year - old girl and a 15 year - old boy ( both Roma ) got forced to marry - although in Romania there of course is a law forbidding it. However this isn't just a single case. Just a couple of weeks ago I watched a documentation - My apologies, but I forgot its name - about this people. There they said that for a Roma girl it is unusual to marry as an adult and they even interviewed a man who said that where he lives girls aren't "too expensive" but that he hopes to get at least an acceptable price for marrying his daughter, because she was beautiful.

Germany: In the year 2007 there was a study saying that each year around 30.000 girls get forced into marriage. Of course there meanwhile is a law, but do you really think that within only four years they were able to reduce this number by 100%? Personally I don't! People who force their children into something like that may threaten their sons or daughters in order to keep them silent. In 2010 we even had a case in which a girl of fifteen who lived in Hambourg was to get forced to marry someone living in Berlin (kilometres away ). Of course the police was able to stop them immediately.

America: Among many tribes living all over America it was usual that the parents and not their children decided whom the latter should marry and if they should marry at all. Many people - amongst others the Inka - even seemed to treat girls like some kind of trade product. For example I know a tradition of the Inka that allowed a priest to choose some girls he considered to be beautiful, he brought them to a temple where they learned everything they would need to care for their future husband and later he gave them away to anybody he needed to please at the moment for any reason whatsoever. The fact that the culture of most of these ancient cultures already died, doesn't really excuse anything. Fact is that before Eurpeans defeated them, this was part of their culture.

USA: I once read the story of a fanatic Christian US-American citizen whom they arrested for murdering his own daughter. He wanted to force her to either marry her own cousin or to become a nun. When she refused to choose either of these two possibilities and converted to Islam to marry the Muslim man she loved, her own fanatic father killed her.

Africa: Some parts of the Massai people's culture can be considered as misogynic, too. For example there a marriage only is a deal between the groom's parents, the groom and the bride's parents. The bride usually isn't even asked if she wants to marry this man. In addition he even has to pay the bride's parents for giving him this girl which makes some non - Massai people think that here they make something like a trade product of her. Also it upsets many people living in modern cultures that a Massai man's value depends on the number of his cows and his wives, i.e. they say that here women kind of get equated with animals...However this isn't even the most extreme fact about these natives: When a man has to sleep in the house of another Massai for any reason whatsoever he has the right to ask the owner of this house to sleep with one of his wives. That means that the husband usually forces his wife to sleep with a man who is a stranger to her, because if he refuses, he is considered as a very impolite person by his tribe.

Result: There may not be a single country where practically nobody gets forced into marriage. You will find forced marriage in Islamic countries as well as in Christian countries or in cultures that belong to neither of them. The Muslim prophet Mohammed ( PBUH ) once said that neither young women nor elder ladies shall get forced into marriage. These women have to agree on the arrangement. Somebody asked him how a female shows whether or not she agrees and the prophet answered "By staying silent." In addition a written record that describes how the prophet once annulled a forced marriage still exists. Prophets are sent by God himself and thus you can't really say that the Muslim God doesn't forbid forced marriage simply because none of the suras written in the Koran says something like "Thou shall not force your daughter into marriage." I even remember a sentence quoted from an anonymious author that says "These things don't happen, because of people obeying the doctrine of their religion, but because of people staying ignorant towards it." So, why do most non - Muslims always think about Islam when they hear words like "forced marriage" or "human trade"? I guess a scspegoat just is every person's psychological need. The illusion that you won't find any person trading with human beings within the 357.111,91 km2  ( the size of Germany ) surrounding you, just makes people feel saver. However in Germany there is another problem - namely that you have to be careful when you talk about several ethnic groups. A lot of people - especially Germans - still are too afraid to talk bad about Jews, because of the antisemitism that got practiced in the 3. Reich. They fear that if they say racist parols about Jews they may get insulted as nazis and excluded. The Roma - people also got murdered when Nazi - Germany occupied East Europe, so here the situation may be the same. However Muslims weren't victims of this genocide which may make people loose their inhibition. When talking about Muslims nobody living in Europe chooses his words as carefully as when talking about Jews for example.

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09:29 AM Apr 03 2015

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

Back then almost every German news show and newspaper reported this: Early in December 2014 an elder gentleman in Memmingen (Bavaria) got arrested for murdering the lady who has been his wife for 46 years. He could prove that she slapped him, insulted him, sometimes locked him up in small rooms in their flat and forbade him to meet their daughter. Due to this overwhelming evidence the judge understood that there was nothing dangerous about this gentleman who apparently just had a mental breakdown this time and who probably just wanted to defend himself during another argument with his wife. Thus he received a mild sentence - compared to what most people in Germany get for homicide.

I just wanted to say that four months after his arresting he's still doing okay in jail.

You say he could have just let her live and file a divorce? I don't know if he's Catholic or protestant, but for his generation divorce is a taboo even among protestants - where divorce actually isn't even considered as something that is not allowed. Even the Roman-Catholic church says that if you are in great danger - which he was under all this mental and physical abuse -, you may leave your husband or wife until the situation has become better. However his generation rarely did so due to traditional reasons. They felt forced to stay together come what may.

09:09 AM Dec 06 2014

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

 

>There is someone I had to visit in the hospital of Cologne last Sunday as there was no time on Saturday. Anyway that also meant that I couldn't attend the mass in my home-village, but had to attend it there instead. Again I was amazed to see that the priests from bigger cities talk about current cultural and political subjects in their preaches. For example he talked about a new TV-show where in each episode another man and another woman who have never met each other before are getting married “after feeling love on first sight”. He says that this is wrong and disrespectful on so many points. First of all many people whenever they hear about a Muslim marriage automatically presume a forced marriage and yet nobody bothers that so much pressure is put on these young people to make them marry right on TV. It is our modern thinking that makes them feel pressured to doing this as they think that being on TV is the most important thing ever and indeed in some cases family and friends maybe even put pressure on them. Another factor underlining this pressure may be that movies and even modern songs make us believe that we do have to feel love on first sight and if we don't at least pretend we do. After so many US-American movies where a boy meets a girl, they fall in love within seconds and stay together for the rest of their lives it has become standard that you need to have a boyfriend /girlfriend to be “in”. Now there is nothing wrong with falling in love on first sight or letting some movie /song make you believe that you just fell in love on first sight, but that doesn't justify marriage. How many relationships already fell apart because the couple was too hasty in their decision of getting married? At first you should try a long-term relationship and if that works than you should get married – without the pressure of TV or any other external influence. Even before the three monotheist religions Judaism, Islam and Christianity came into existence it is believed that marriage was considered a serious cultural and religious matter that needed long-term preparations. These bonds have probably always been considered as sacred and you didn't just get married for the brief attention during the wedding – like some of the couples from this show probably do.

>“Domradio” says that a Catholic nun named Mrs.Ackermann now received an award for her work against forced prostitution in Germany. To some it may seem surprising that with all the police around here and with all those people pointing their fingers on Muslims or Sinti and Roma accusing them of discriminating against women there still is forced prostitution in Germany, but according to the speech this lady gave the day she received the award there is. Constantly young ladies from Africa or the East of Europe get brought to Germany and sold to real dumping-prices which many of them experience as humiliating. Unless they inform the police – which many of them don't do out of shame or fear – nobody controls whether or not they are here voluntarily and under what conditions they live here. Already the fact that there indeed are former prostitutes who accept the offer of help from Mrs.Ackermanns aid-organization and move to one of this organizations flats to flee prostitution and already that many contact her via the phone asking for help is enough proof.

09:10 AM Aug 19 2014

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

Did you know that in Germany the number of men who got away with rape keeps increasing rapidly? “Tagesschau” says that the reason for this may be our law which defines rape as something that includes one of the following aspects: Rape is if a man either uses violence or threatens to use violence to make her have sex with him or misuses a situation in which the victim is just defenseless and she can't do anything about it – like unconscious people for example. According to “Tagesschau” that means that German law doesn't consider it as rape if she says that she doesn't want to and he - let's say – pins her to the bed without hurting her and has sex with her against her will. The so-called Istanbul-Convention – that Germany also signed – was supposed to do something about this situation, but then – despite signing that Germany would change something about this delicate situation we have here – people from the government decided that “there was no need for action” and thus said paragraph that defines rape remains the same. A Germany-wide famous prosecutor agreed on having an interview with “Tagesschau” and she says that the already had many cases in which the victim talked about having cried and screamed “No!” or “Don't!” the whole time while he did it and in the end even her attacker cracked and admitted that everything she had said was true and yet the judge let him go because of this dangerous paragraph. In fact during a process like this German judges usually do more harm to the victim than to the one being accused. “Why didn't you handle this situation in a different way – by for example fighting back?” is a common question during processes like these if they are dealt with at a German court according to “Tagesschau”. They seem to ignore that many girls and women do not fight back - partly out of fear of how the attacker will react and partly because many sources warn people about fighting back in a situation like this as men capable of rape can be unpredictable. Last weekend the newspaper “Süddeutsche Zeitung” even had an article about a case in Bavaria in which a man who was accused of rape was allowed to leave the prison before the judge could even declare whether or not this man was innocent. The reason was that due to a lack of staff at this court the treatment of this case took longer than expected. Thus they decided that keeping him behind bars any longer without even declaring a sentence would be “impertinence”. Now he is allowed to walk around freely until he is proven guilty by a judge.

And to think that I know Germans or foreigners liking Germany who are constantly worried about Islamic countries denying women their rights...

01:06 AM Jul 16 2011

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

P.S. I apologize since this post of mine isn't in order, but as it seems this technical problem I recently had came back.

01:02 AM Jul 16 2011

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

Dear narges, First of all I'm not a guy, but a girl, but let's just stay away from formalities like that, okay? Of course I agree on what you say and actually that's why I posted this forum here: To make people see that forced marriage isn't an issue of ones religion, but of traditions - and perhaps financial interests, too. In addition I thank you for your explanation about Iran. When I only found the example above concerning this country, I thought that something like that may have happened. However I wasn't so sure and thus I thank you for posting this information here.

02:54 PM Jul 15 2011

narges

narges
Iran, Islamic Republic Of

hi guy!!!

i read ur blog, and respect  ur confabs. i accept & beleive like Rocky, as he said Car doesn`t have any problem, Driver is guilty , so religons show good ways, the followers confuse the way and maybe they change the way just as they want!!!!

in my country we have forced marriages, but these days statistics show it reduces constantly,girls & boys choose their partner by themselves!!! i have a friend, his father is one the most famous painter in iran and even in other countries, it seems that he should be an enlightened person!!!! my friend loves one of his classmates, (he study sculpture), but his family don`t want her because she isn`t turkoman!!!! they have blood nobility and must marry with turkoman!!!! So my friend have to marry with a girl from his city!! they choose a girl and he must obey!!!! it happens for boys too!!!!

i think it isn`t religion, that force u to an unwanted marriage, it is tradition!!! it is created by people by lapse of time!!!! most of the time tradition show itself in form of religion!!! i have really really problem with tradition!!! it excludes you for every detail!! if u follow tradition in ur life u `ll die after some days1!!!

but as i live in iran, i see it goes better!!!! :)

01:52 AM Jul 08 2011

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

Rockyy01

May God bless you too. I say so for your kind words towards me as well as for allowing me to mention your name in this forumpost about antisemitism.

01:50 AM Jul 08 2011

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

Thank you admin for solving my problem! That was really kind of you.

09:07 AM Jul 06 2011

Rockyy01

Rockyy01
Pakistan

May God Bless You My Dear... :)

06:35 AM Jul 06 2011

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

You don't have any need to apologize either! I accept every criticism as long as it doesn't contain bad language. Actually I even thank you for telling me what you think about this blog of mine. Thank you!

05:09 AM Jul 06 2011

Rockyy01

Rockyy01
Pakistan

Nothing to apologize my dear... :) you had a thought... you shared... & it's a good thing... cuz i'm not as much wrong when i think or do wrong... AS I AM WHEN I KEEP THINKING OR DOING WRONG... :) I appologize if anything from me went unfair or offensive... Take Care... Stay Blessed...

02:02 AM Jul 05 2011

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

Again I apologize! I think I should contact the admin. Perhaps he can fix the problem I've got with my posts at the moment. I'm sorry! I know my posts are hard to read at the moment, but I don't know what I can do myself to solve this problem. Sorry! Have a nice day!

01:55 AM Jul 05 2011

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

I guess this is a little misunderstanding! I know what Islam teaches and as far as I'm informed Mohammed was against forced marriage as I learned from Wikipedia. This was just meant to be a criticism of some people who think bad things about all Muslims, simply because of some things - in this example forced marriage - happening in some countries that have a Muslim majority. What you say about Christianity: Perhaps you are right and I am wrong, but as far as I'm informed - and I talked about it with a protestant minister - Christians actually are allowed to drink alcohol as long as it doesn't influence what you do. You can drink alcohol in so little masses that you still have controlover the things you do. Now about the things you say about Christian countries: In Europe, America and Australia there is a coloured mixture of people. Some of them are Jews, while others are Chhristians, Muslims or atheists. Thus we can't just aim our laws at what the Bible says. In addition you've got to see a holy scripture - like the bible in this case - as a whole. You can't just focus on one sentence in the Old Testament that  says to kill homosexuals. Once I made up my mind about homosexuality in Christianity. If you want to know how I interprete this, you shall feel free to read http://www.englishbaby.com/findfriends/view_photo/596319?page=3. It's the comment of 03:13 AM Mar 08 2011

11:22 PM Jul 04 2011

Rockyy01

Rockyy01
Pakistan

& really... with a SAD SORRY... I want to draw your attention towards your blog in which you used 'ISLAMIC COUNTRIES...' as examples... but you should have used 'ISLAMIC RULES...' when you were searching examples... See... The girl you talked about who said... "Well, there are a lot of prostitutes in Christian countries, so the Bible obviously tells women that they shall gain their money by prostitution." she actually gave a right example... to me that example is enough to make someone understand... but let me go deeper... you know what... Once i thought that in U.S... & in Whole Europe... & in all Western Countries... Homosexuality... Adultery... Drinking Alocohol... are considered as normal... 'SO DOES THE HOLY BIBLE ALLOWS THESE ALL THINGS...???' then I thought 'WHO SHOULD I ASK ABOUT IT...' though I have so many Christian friends... but I went to the Library... found The Holy Bible (not just bible)... & found that there is a really hard punishment for Homosexuality... Adultery... & Drinking Alocohol is also 'PROHIBITED...' & then I asked my Christian friends... most (TRUE) of them said... 'WE DIDN'T KNOW IT BEFORE...& WE WERE WRONG...' some (STUBBORN) of them said... 'BIBLE CAN'T BE SO CRUEL...IT'S NONSENSE...' & ONE OF THEM WAS THE MOST SHOCKING WHO SAID... 'JESUS CHRIST ONCE HAD BEEN DRUNK TOO...' Can you imagine...??? Atleast I can never imagine My Beloved Jesus Christ doing 'AGAINST...' for what he was sent... But I knew what does The Holy Bible say... so why should I believe in whatever Christians or Christian Countries do...??? I needed an answer... & I found the answer from the 'RIGHT PLACE...' from 'THE RULES IN CHRISTIANITY...' & the answer is really good & appreciatable... & who follows them... is a good Christian & act upon The Holy Bible... who doesn't follow... is a bad Christian & doesn't act upon The Holy Bible... so why should anyone blame The Holy Bible or the whole Christianity for the bad things that Christians are doing...??? I never blame The Holy Bible... I always Blame People... (IF THEY'RE DOING AGAINST OF WHAT THEY SHOULD DO...) & you didn't study Islamic Rules... (may be...) cuz you used Islamic Countries... as the 'Rulers of Islam...' No... WE ALL ARE FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM... IF WE DO WRONG... WE'RE WRONG... NOT ISLAM... CUZ ISLAM HAS BEEN CONTAINING THE MESSAGE OF GLOBAL PEACE SINCE 1400 YEARS ABOUT WHAT 'U.N...' & MANY HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS THOUGHT SOME YEARS AGO... & Yemen... Iran... Pakistan or even Saudi Arabia... ARE NOT THE RULERS... OF ISLAM... EVERYONE SHOULD JUST FOLLOW WHAT OUR BELOVED RELIGION SAID US TO DO... IF THERE IS A GUY WHO RAPES A GIRL IN SAUDI ARABIA OR IN PAKISTAN... IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT HE DID RIGHT... THE LAND OR THE RELIGION AIN'T NO MATTER FROM WHERE HE BELONGS... HE WILL ALWAYS KNOWN AS A CRIMINAL... JUST BECAUSE OF HIS ACT... & In Islam... YOU CAN NOT IMAGINE HOW MANY FACILITIES WOMEN HAVE... DON'T SEE HOW THEIR MEN WANT THEM TO BE... JUST SEE... HOW ISLAM SAYS THEM TO BE... & Now... Compare us both... (though you may be wiser & better than me...) but do you really think it's right to blame a 'CAR...' for an accident rather than the 'DRIVER...'??? I guess I know your answer... cuz you're not from those who want to spread arguements... waiting for your reply... for if you had some other question (s)... I'D BE REALLY PLEASED TO REPLY... Take Care... Stay Blessed... Peace Be Upon You...

03:40 PM Jul 04 2011

Rockyy01

Rockyy01
Pakistan

Dear Dorothee... I can add many thing as proofs... examples... but that could make it as i'm showing intolerance... let me show you something... A NEWS..."Police in northern Pakistan have arrested six people, including an imam, on charges of contracting four underage children to get married in order to settle a family feud, RFE/RL's Radio Mashaal reports. Two sisters -- 3-year-old Darwesh Bibi and 6-year-old Fazeelat Bibi -- were engaged to two boys from another family to resolve a dispute between the families, who live in the Dera Ismail Khan district of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa.Police officials said the local "panchayat," or council, announced the decision after the brother of the two girls, Barkatullah, was found guilty of "wrongdoing" against the other family.The decision to engage the four children was made under a local ritual called "vani" or "swara," which is banned under Pakistani law. It entails forcing women and girls under the age of consent into marriage to settle family feuds.Police in Dera Ismail Khan have opened criminal cases against 14 people. Police said six of them have been arrested and ongoing investigations will lead to further arrests.Muhammad Ashraf, the police chief at the Saddar police station in Dera Ismail Khan, told RFE/RL that the incident took place in the village of Got Kala."Two underage girls were engaged. One was three years old and the other was six years old," Ashraf said. "I went there and after confirmation, I arrested the mullah and six more people from both families. Some more arrests will be made. This is against the law and we took action."SHOW ME BY YOUR ANSWER NOW... HOW TOLERATE ARE YOU...

02:52 AM Jun 27 2011

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

Unfortunately I can't remove this blog anymore.

02:46 AM Jun 27 2011

Dorothee

Dorothee
Germany

I give up on it. I tried every tipp people gave me, but still they do quite the opposite of what I wanted this post to be like. My apologies, but I hope at least you still can read it. P.S. No, I'm not a Muslim.