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The Maple Leaf Rag

Mapleleaf Man

Canada

September 26, 2009
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A friend of mine wanted to see my videos on youtube. Easy enough for the rest of the world but if you live in China it's impossible.

China has blocked access to youtube as well as other social networking sites, Facebook for example. I'm not really sure why the oldest culture in the world would do something like this. Are the Chinese people not able to deal with other people's opinions? Is the government afraid that its citizens are not intelligent and will believe everything they see or hear on youtube? What do you think? Do you know why China would block certain sites that the rest of the world can access? Let me know.

 This week on QQ, I was talking with a girl who said that she "loved the President of China and the government, too."  I'm not sure that I've ever talked to anyone else who has said that they 'love' the head of their country. Is this part of being Chinese? Does everyone 'love' the President of China? Is that part of living in China?

I shouldn't blame China for blocking Facebook and Youtube because Iran also blocks these sites. It seems to me that you could draw a parallel between the two countries but I will leave that up to you.  Is China the same as Iran? I don't know anyone in North Korea but I can only assume that it is the same there.

What do you think of all of this? Are the Chinese people smart enough to see the truth or should Youtube and other sites be blocked there?

For thousands of years, China led the world in culture, inventions and a structured society. China had modern culture before the rest of the world, England and Europe included. North America has only had modern culture for maybe 200 years but China has had it for thousands of years. What happened? Why is China content with copying technology instead of inventing it? Why are Japan and Europe so far ahead with their technology while China is happy to copy technology and call it their own? To me, it doesn't make sense. China should be number one in the world. To me, blocking youtube and Facebook is an example of how much China has lost and how far they have to go to get back into the world.

By the way, I love the Chinese people and I love the country. Whatever I say has nothing to do with the people, just with the government. Let's hear what you have to say about it.

05:57 AM Nov 06 2009

falloutboy

falloutboy
Virgin Islands, British

all i can say is the govt of china is a giant pain in the ass..i've been studying in china for past 4 yrs n since they've blocked youtube and other social networking sites like facebook,twitter,hi5 i've been totally doomed..seriously the govt sucks in these matters..why the hell do they need to block these sites..its not like we wouldn't know of all the events they are trying to hide by blocking these sites..we know about these things anyhow, doesnt matter how much  they try to cover it.     i mean who cares about it anyway huh..i dont give a rat ass about the situation. the govnt needs to solve this..they are such assholes..arrgg..gets to my nerves. 

 

03:20 AM Sep 30 2009

jess9622

jess9622
China

totally agree with your viewpoints .   Smile  

Thanks for your compliments Embarassed.  

no comments this time cause i'll on holidays from tomorrow.    i think we can discuss more on other topics later

04:28 PM Sep 28 2009

Mapleleaf Man
Canada

You are right, I think. I have voiced the same sentiment before, actually if you read back in my blog, I said the same as you in a Canadian magazine. My concern is that the Chinese government is underestimating the intelligence of the Chinese people. I think that, on the whole, the Chinese people can deal with the truth. There is a massive part of the population that is young and very educated. Knowing the truth isn't going to hurt anything and may make the people more sympathetic with what the government is trying to do. 

You're right. The government has to move slowly but they can't ignore the people and treat them like children. Maybe that worked in the '50s and '60s but it won't work now. 

I enjoyed this discussion and your points were very valid and well thought out. I'm glad you commented and I'm proud of your English. It's very good!

10:07 AM Sep 28 2009

jess9622

jess9622
China

i admit canada's media is more free at speaking. canada and china have completely different politics system. i don't know if your country has a person like Mao ,who was so great and important to found the new China.    Actually Mao just like Fidel Castro Ruz of  cuba , and Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela of south Africa obtain most chinese people' respect.   And most chinese people think  Mao offered more contributions  more than  his wrongness during his time.   

i don't know much about the egg-throwing event. because at that time, i was only 5 years old .   there are three  person who threw eggs to Mao's photo in tiananmen in 1989.   that year was a special time, when riots took place . 

 during the end of 20 century. the world's political stuation changed. many event happened at that time, like  fall of communism in eastern europe, the fall of belin wall ...the end of cold -war .     China is a communism country, if the goverment didn't show strict decision to maintain  the riots, our nation may run into war at that time.    China has experiened long long -time wars since the end of Qing Danasty.   what happened before has become to be the past.  China has changed a lot and developed fast after years of efferts.   Your country's polictic system may better than ours, but may not proper to manage China.  Because we have different people, different culture, different history.   the most important, canada is a developed country but China is developing country.   

many western media complained China restricted people's human rights , free speaking.     rome is not built within  one day.   China develops step by step.  firstly, to ensure 1.3 billions people have food to eat and have clothes to wear; then let the children can be educated....., as you know, most chinese people are poor and from countryside.   if they don't have foods to eat, don't have house to live, don't have clothes to wear,  how they care about the other things.   of course the people's life is much better than before, but far away from developed countries. 

 hmm, my thinking goes confused now.  i can';t go forward to discuss.  but i'm happy to share views with you, thnks for telling me your thoughts. 

04:21 AM Sep 28 2009

Mapleleaf Man
Canada

Excellent points! Your response was very well written and thought out. Even in the west, we don't get the truth from the national media, simply because they are tied to either big business or have a political slant. The only real insight we get is from independent news and media. In Canada, it's different. We have the CBC, which is a national media outlet which is government funded but truly independent. We also have individual bloggers who voice opinions which may or may not be politically neutral but whose voice is always free. China pays people to blog on a pro-government platform and jails or imprisons people who write blogs against the government. If you are in China, then you don't know about this. If you want, I can describe what has happened in the past to people who have been imprisoned for anti-government writing, speeches and actions. Did you hear about the three men who were sentenced to prison, one for life, for throwing eggs at a mural of Chairman Mao? If something as simple as throwing an egg at a wall painting can get someone a life sentence in prison then I'm not sure the situation is as rosy as the people in China think it is. Thanks for you comment!

07:52 PM Sep 27 2009

jess9622

jess9622
China

Firstly, in china, facebook and youtube are still blocked now. I haven’t opened the website to my page for months. Yes, during the time of the riots, people still could use facebook and youtube. But after the riots, these websites were blocked.

It’s not the Uyghur people to spread the riots but some individuals, who want to call in people to join in the riots for departing Sinkiang from China.  During the riots, many innocent people were killed and the people couldn’t live a safe life.  The government of a nation has to protect the country and maintain the people’s ordinary life.  Regardless of who was right who was wrong, to destroy people’s ordinary life and kill people are so bad.    

 Due to different politics system and different cultures, western media can’t understand the behaviors’ of china government. The reports from western are quite different even opposite to the reports from China.  The government only releases the official information on the internet.  Many Chinese people, newspaper, and media spread information on the internet.  An event can differ a lot from different newspaper, websites, media.  In respect of an event, there are many different sayings.  All sayings seem reasonable. Each saying represents its own profit.  It’s hard for people to figure out which saying is true.  Only those people who encounter the event know how is going.  No government is perfect.  Though our government has many problems, it is proper to manage the current China.  The government is responsible for maintaining nation’s union and keeping its people safe. It’s not an easy work to manage a country holding the largest population in the world.

I believe Chinese people are smart enough to see the difference.  Even people don’t agree with the government’s saying, which doesn’t mean they agree with others’ saying. The people have their own opinions.  Again, what’s the truth?  There are many versions about one event on the internet.  Who can tell which is the real news.  Even the reporter can’t make sure his report is true even he witnesses.   Just take MJ’s death for an example. There are tons of different reports about how MJ died.

05:22 AM Sep 27 2009

Mapleleaf Man
Canada

Thanks for the comments. Youtube and Facebook have been open recently, it's only in the recent past that they have been blocked. I have many friends on Facebook who are from China so it's more to do with the anniversary than anything else. The riots in the northwest were months ago and people were using both Facebook and Youtube during the riots. 

I find it unusual that you would think that the Uyghur people would 'spread the riots' on youtube. How would they do this? The Chinese government spreads much misinformation on youtube as well as on government supported blogs all over the Internet. Why is it ok for the Chinese government to spread information on the Internet but not other Chinese people? Do they think that the Chinese people are not smart enough to see the difference? Or are they afraid that people all over the world will know the truth? I'm pretty sure that they are afraid that the people in China will suddenly realize that what their government tells them, isn't true. 

01:49 AM Sep 27 2009

jess9622

jess9622
China

YOUTUBE HAS BEEN BLOCKED FOR A LONG TIME.  FACEBOOK AND TWITTER HAS BEEN BLOACKED SINCE THE SINKIANG 7.5 EVENT TOOK PLACE.  EVEN GAMIL HAS ONCE BEEN BLOCKED. ALL HAS SOMTHING TO DO WITH THE POLITICS ISSUE.   TO BLOCK SUCH WEBSITES DOESN'T MAKE MUCH  DIFFERENCE TO PEOPLE LIFE, BUT WILL MAKE PEOPLE HAVE LESS FUN ONLINE.

LOVE THE HEAD OF A COUNTRY?  HMM, I JUST LOVE MY COUNTRY AND RESPECT THE HEAD.  I DON'T PAY MUCH ATTECTION ON POLITICS. CAN'T OFFER THE REASONS FOR BLOCKING WEBSITES.

08:00 PM Sep 26 2009

carolycy
China

Hi there! I'm the new comer here.

As I know,  the reason why facebook was blocked in China was because the uighur people used facebook to spread the riots in Xinjiang. Youtube was blocked before that, it also something links to political reason.