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why did they convert to ISLAM ?? why did they accept ISLAM ??

11:24 AM Feb 27 2008 | Reply

redwana

redwana

Egypt

In your opinion ..why did some people convert to ISLAM..

Why did they choose to change their life…and pass all the obstacles to be MUSLIM  ....?

Say your openions frankly ..but without disrespect.. 

 

12:28 AM Feb 29 2008 | Reply

Kanaobi

United States

MarkChina: we need to make a SecularBaby thread I think.

05:51 AM Feb 29 2008 | Reply

Blakerieger

United States

"If Hitler had been religious, would God really have said at the gates of heaven "Hey, you were responsible for the deaths of millions of people and spreading hatred throughout Europe, but you believed in me, so in you come, my friend!"?"

 

Ahh, but Hitler was religious.  He was a practicing Catholic, and very much into the occult- he certainly believed the supernatural was very real as evidenced by his actions in research of the occult, if not by his words.

 

Hitler pretended to be many things- a vegetarian, for example, which he was not except on occasion- but while he may or may not have been a "Christian" as he claimed, he certainly did believe in 'god'; by no means was he an atheist.  He may have had very twisted views on what 'god' was compared to many religious people, but almost without a doubt he believed in its existence, and it's agreement with him. 

 

A few quotes for you:

http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/quotes_hitler.html 

 

“Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith.”
~Adolf Hitler

 

Ergo, Hitler is in heaven, according to the "you worshiped the right god, thus you go to heaven," theory… according to Abrahamic religions, anyway. 

I'd rather go to hell than share a flat with that nut case.

10:18 AM Feb 29 2008 | Reply

hakimi

hakimi

Yemen

Kana  will you accept me in your Secular alliance in Ebaby for preparing and start a battle,,hahahah

03:46 PM Feb 29 2008 | Reply

Kanaobi

United States

I'd rather go to hell than share a flat with that nut case.

Blake, I was thinking something when I read the nut case part which is actually described Hitler.lolLaughing

 

Hakimi: lol hell yes!!!!!! yay for new member!Laughing

04:07 PM Feb 29 2008 | Reply

hoda61

hoda61

Morocco

we just interpet things to the logic if we haven't a strong faith…

poeple  choosed convert to islam  cz they finally believed that islam is the last  religion  and muhamad is the prophet of allah

and there decisions make them strong enough to bear everything

the really really smart person  is the one who use that logic together education and science , history , islamic and other religion civilization …just to persuade himself and to reach the reality to follow the right religion

and instead of talking about mythology ; logic and philosophy let's using each one to create  smth positive and to think about after life.

07:01 PM Feb 29 2008 | Reply

MarkChina

MarkChina

United Kingdom

justic – You find my words disappointing? Well, now you know how I feel when I read the racist trash some of you Muslims come up with on this forum.

Blake – Post appreciated. I'll do some more research on Hitler and Catholicism, though I'm pretty sure he wasn't a religious person. Makes no difference to the argument anyway.

I think hoda61 makes a very good point. Some religious people try to make their belief factual (which it is not) because they lack faith.

04:37 AM Mar 01 2008 | Reply

redwana

redwana

Egypt

MarkChina

thanks for your comments  but who told you that the believers in God all of them will be forgiven and enter the heaven..?i did not say that .maybe that thoughts are in your mind because of the Christianity  which says that who believe in salvation of the Christ will enter the heaven .."

but i never say that beside it is not logical ..and the heaven and hell are not the measurement of the religion as i said before..

" So whoever does an atom's weight of charity will see it, And whoever does an atom's weight of evil will see it"

the measurement is the belief and good deeds. 

"whoever does an odious(deed), then he will be recompensed with (nothing0except the like of it .,and whoever does righteousness, male or female , and is a believer ,then those will enter the garden, provided therein without reckoning" guraan surrat (the forgiver) verse n 40

 

04:45 AM Mar 01 2008 | Reply

redwana

redwana

Egypt

plz friend ….the creative argument leads to the truth..plz give up accusing each others..

and in this forum i think any one can post any thing..music ..funnies ..even make a date on this forum ..then why not i post what i want…if any one dont like this issue plz he/she can leave  it..it is v easy 

and i am not here to make you convert to Islam..but it's my right to talk about what i interest in as you can talk about ur interests ….behave yourself plz…

 

05:05 AM Mar 01 2008 | Reply

Kanaobi

United States

but it's my right to talk about what i interest in as you can talk about ur interests

exactly. it's what we did. It's our right to speak up our mind too don't you think? don't be a baby by wanting people to hear you but you dont want to hear other's opinion. it's called critiscm, by the way.

 

 

05:24 AM Mar 01 2008 | Reply

redwana

redwana

Egypt

Why people believe in god?

why not?

i tell you who is my GOD ..

"He is Allah ,"other than whom" there is no god except He .He is the King,The Superb Holy ,The Peace The Supreme Believer, The Supremely Hegemonic,The Ever-Mighty,The Superb Potentate, The Supremely Proud. All Extolment be to Allah above whatever they associate 'with Him' 

He is ALLAH,The Creator, The Initiator ,The Supreme Fashioner. to Him "belong" the Fairest Names. Whatever is in the heavens and the earth extols to Him, And He is The Ever-Mighty, The Ever-Wise.

quraan surat the(mustering) verses 23-24 

and i believe he is the creator of every thing ….it is logical  ..that world has been created ..

'We,Ever We ,created you. would you then sicerely admit 'the truth'?

So,have you then seen what you ejaculate?

is it you create it,or even are We the creators?

We ,Ever,We , determined among you death ;and no way are We,Ever We,outstripped.

'so' that We may exchange the likes of you and bring you into being 'again in fashion' you do not know.

and indeed you have already known the earliest bringing into being ;'if' had you 'known' ,you would have been mindful.

have you then seen 'whatever' you till?

is it you  plant it or are We Ever We,the Planters?

if We had 'so' decided We would indeed have made it crushed to piece ; then you would linger on'bitterly' exclaiming.

"''surly we are indeed  penalized 'for debt'

no indeed, but we are dispossessed !!!'''

have you then seen the water you drink?

is it you who have sent it down from the rainy clouds or are We, Ever,We, the Sender down?

if We had 'so' decided, We would have made it bitter; so had you only thanked 'Us'.

have you then seen the fire you flare up?

is it you who brought its tree into being, or are We, Ever, We , the bringers into being?

We,Ever We, have made it for a reminder and enjoyment for the denizens in the desert.

so extol with the Name of your Lord, the Ever-Magnificent!'  

SURRAT 9THE EVENT 57-74

by the way ..the pronoun We with capital W REFER TO Allah and it is plural for Ennobling and solemnity according to Arabic grammatic….

 

 

i think it is v clear in front of our eyes that the world has been created…has not come by chance or by the nature….

from where has the first element  come or created …..is the world without beginning or end?

what is the necessary of creating that world? and why it have that shape and features..