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what is your opinion about holocaust…is it true or israel is the real holocaust on Gaza as israealis themselves say…???

What is happening in Gaza is not a simple escalation, the Israelis are speaking of inflicting “Holocaust” on the Palestinians. They finally have admitted themselves that what the Europeans have done to them is what they intend to try on the Palestinians. This Holocaust is Nevertheless ongoing since 1948… But maybe now that they are calling things by their names some people might wake up

here some pictures..iam so sory if they harm your eyes…wake up and know the reality ….....may the world wake up ''arabs,moslims,non moslims,westerns, christians  ,jews,atheists,  americans,every one…......may all of us know ….

Israeli soldiers confront Palestinian school children during a protest at a checkpoint that the children have to cross daily on their way to school in the old city of Hebron December 7, 2005. (MAANnews/Mamoun Wazwaz     Israeli soldier searches a Palestinian child in the center of Hebron (Reuter 20 Nov. 2005)       Bethlehem - Palestinian man arrested, handcuffed, and blindfolded while his two children are watching. (AFP, Al-Quds newspaper, 21 July 2005)   As Palestinians start a new school year, curfews, roadblocks, and closures are making it difficult and, in some cases,  prevent students and teachers from reaching their schools   A Palestinian man escorting his two children to school in Ramallah   An Israeli soldier shows a victory sign to a member of the official international observer group Temporary International Presence in Hebron (TIPH), as he detains a Palestinian student in the West Bank city of Hebron.     Palestinian teachers held for two hours by Israeli soldiers at the Hawara checkpoint on their way to schools in the area 45,000 teachers have problems getting to school         School children run in front of an Israeli soldier in Hebron near a military check-point during a curfew in Hebron, September 29, 2002   Schoolboys run to take cover while an Israeli armored personnel carrier opens fire while blocking the road at Beit Lahia, Gaza, Sept 5, 2002   Wounded schoolboy is carried into Shifa hospital in Gaza City after Israeli missile attack on a security building in Gaza, Tuesday Dec. 4, 2001   Israeli soldier questions a mother and her children on their way from school at Qalandiya checkpoint   Little Samir's school bag being searched by Israeli soldiers at Qalandiya checkpoint

Great thread Redwana

Who are fascists Markchina ??

hakimi…...even if they go to paletine and see by their eyes…...they will keep their mind blocked…..

it is

Disgraceful. Markchina

You guys need to remember that you Muslims have been using children as human bombs. If I were an Israeli soldier, I'd certainly be checking every Muslim kid who came near me.

You see the photos, but you fail to see what happened just before the photo was taken. Take redwana's last photo for example. Can you say with absolute certainty that the young Muslim hadn't just thrown a petrol bomb or a stone at an Israeli soldier? No? So, your picture raises more questions than it answers and you are being intellectually dishonest if you pretend otherwise.

If Israel wanted to just get rid of the Palestinians, they could eaily have done so by now. The fact htat they haven't indicates amazing tolerance on Israel's part.

You also forget that 15% of Israelis are in fact Muslims. Kinda ruins your argument right there, doesn't it? But then, facts have never been a strong point of the Islamo-Fascists on this forum, mainly because they prefer to quote from the Koran.

hakimi – If you want me to change my arguments, you and your friends will have to stop using the same tired old unsubstantiated points.

Hakimi, you have posted this picture in another thread as well

While it is an Israeli policeman, the bloodied man is not a Palestinian and the photo was not taken at the Temple Mount.

The injured man was an American named Tuvia Grossman, and he was assaulted while driving in a taxi outside the Old City of Jerusalem. His taxi was stoned and the occupants dragged from the vehicle. Grossman managed to get away and the policeman was protecting him from further harm.

From the Wikipedia page about Grossman:

On the eve Rosh Hashanah 2000, Grossman hailed a taxi with two friends to visit the Western Wall. When the driver took a shortcut through the Arab neighborhood Wadi Al-Joz, a mob of about 40 Arabs surrounded the taxi, smashed the windows, and dragged Grossman out, whereupon they beat him. The mob kicked him repeatedly, stabbed him once in the leg, and then pounded his head with rocks. Grossman managed to run to a nearby gas station, where he collapsed, and an Israeli club-wielding policeman protected him, threatening the mob ^[1]. This was when the infamous picture was taken, by some freelance photographers who were at the gas station, of Grossman bleeding and crouched under the policeman, who is shouting and waving his club.

The Associated Press, who originally distributed the picture, issued a correction as did many of the papers in which it ran.

You may indeed know that this is an incorrect caption, in which case it is disingenuous of you to post the picture with the wrong caption.

If you don't know, then now you do.

MarkChin

you know….your way of argument is  not affective….you just want to change the topic to let it go as you want..and leave the same issue…...any way i will reply you

i agree with you ..we must look what is behind the picture…why that isreali soldier catch the little child like that…maybe the child throw a stone on hiim….but why the child throw the stone?  can you reply plz…..

and if one little child throw a stone on you ..will you beat him and catch him like that

another thing ….you said 15% of isreali are muslims….if i take it as a fact ..they are not isreali   they are arabs..who couldnt leave their OWN LAND ..and they lived in isreal …in fact they are living in the part of palestine which isreal occupied.

MarkChin…

iam with you till the end…can you tell me what is behind that picture ….what did make isreali soldiers kill ''mouhammed al durra '' while he was seeking his father's help….tell me plz..did that father throw the isreali  did the little son son throw him??

if i do like you and search for what behind the picture….then ….i will get the conclusion..

you know why that isreali shoot the son and let the father alive??  tell me why plz? to make the father's heart bleed when he see his son killed infront of his eyes….....

now …is it true that bring some verses from torah just to make it fir with my thoughts…or it is the reality that isreali are the most fasciests in the world….......???

that is the picture…

محمد الدرة يحتمي بجسد والده قبل مقتله برصاص جنود إسرائيليين <!- E IIMA ->                                   and if i supposed that isreali….shoot the childrean because  they throw the stone  is that an excuse to chase them by their weapons like that picture     and is that infant  the little baby throw the stone also…...   .

israel deceives the World, and some of the people believe it!!!!!!

As far as I'm concerned,each person who has a bit common sense and conscience should be able to condemn İsrael's massacred.And it is not sufficent.Whole countries must curse attacks and violence against Palestinians.

Thank you gkisseberth for proving my point so perfectly!

redwana – Do not dare to accuse me of trying to change the topic. You are being dishonest – yet again. My arguments are extremely effective, as well you and your Islamo-Fascist friends know, since you are rarely able to even attempt a coherent rebuttal of them.

Why did the child throw the stone? OK, prepare yourself. The child threw the stone because he had been indoctrinated with years of Islamo-Fascist propaganda by so-called "peaceful" religious leaders.

So, Muslims living in Israel are not Israelis? That's an incredibly dangerous thing to suggest, since, as foreigners, they will now not be eligible for the same things as Israeli citizens. Perhaps you enjoy promoting division betwen people of differnet faiths? Perhaps you think that people of differnet faiths cannot live together in peace? Perhaps you'd like to check with them first. Perhaps you'd like to start with the Muslim members of the Israeli parliament? I'm sure they'd be happy to give up their rights just because you think they should.

If you want to discuss who is "ocuppying" whose land, we'll be here til the end of time. Neither of us can prove without doubt who was on that land first, although Judaism is older than Islam, so I guess the Israelis have a good claim. I suggest we deal with the problem as it is now or at least as it has been in the more recent past.

I mean, are you suggesting a global principle here? If so, better tell the Poles to get out of half of Poland. Better get all the whites out of Canada, the USA, Australia, New Zealand, Africa. Better get the blacks out of the USA and back to Africa. Best of all, we can get rid of the Muslims living in the UK, right? Or is this not a global principle, but one to be employed only when you benefit?

Whilst we're on the subject, what about Obama? Half black and half white. Do we send him to Africa or Europe? Gotta make sure we do things right when we create our racially pure societies, eh redwana?

Just remember that Al Qaeda kills kids who take chocolate from American soldiers. Just remember that Al Qaeda kills kids who refuse to join their ranks. Just remember that Israelis have lost kids too. Oh, but that's probably OK, isn't it, because they're not "true Muslims" or they are "infidels".

hakimi……even if they go to palestine and see by their eyes……they will keep their mind blocked…..
Redwana you was right in this one…thanks
Disgraceful.