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Arabian or Persian Gulf

roshandel

roshandel

Iran, Islamic Republic Of

Persian Gulf


The Persian Gulf, in the Southwest Asian region, is an extension of the Indian Ocean located between Iran and the Arabian Peninsula.[1]

The Persian Gulf was the focus of the Iraq-Iran War that lasted from 1980 to 1988, with each side attacking the other's oil tankers. In 1991, the Persian Gulf again was the background for what was called the Persian Gulf War or the "Gulf War" when Iraq invaded Kuwait and was subsequently pushed back, despite the fact that this conflict was primarily a land conflict.

The natural environment of the Persian Gulf is very rich with good fishing grounds, extensive coral reefs, and abundant pearl oysters, but its ecology has become increasingly under pressure from the heavy industrialisation and in particular the repeated major petroleum spillages associated with recent wars fought in the region.


from Wikipedia.org

Naming dispute

A historical map is altered to erase the word "Persian" from the Persian Gulf in a Dubai museum, United Arab Emirates.
Main article: Persian Gulf naming dispute

Since the 1960s with the rise of Arab nationalism (Pan-Arabism), starting with Gamal Abdel Nasser's Arab Republic of Egypt, some Arab countries, including the ones bordering the Persian Gulf, have adopted the term "Arabian Gulf" (in Arabic: الخلیج العربي al-khalīj al-ʿarabī) to refer to the waterway.[6] This is controversial and not commonly used outside of the Arab world, nor is it recognized by the United Nations7[8][9] and other international organizations. The United Nations on many occasions has requested that only "Persian Gulf" be used as the official and standard geographical designation for the body of water.[10] "Arabian Gulf" is also an ancient name for the Red Sea.[11] Hecataeus (472 to 509 B.C.) can be stated where Persian Gulf and Arabian Gulf (Red Sea) have been clearly shown. Also a map has remained from Herodotus, the great Greek historian (425-484 B.C.) which introduces Red Sea as the Arabian Gulf. [12]




For more infoemation and Map:
www.thepersiangulf.org

01:22 AM Apr 30 2008 |

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hekmer

hekmer

Saudi Arabia

SASSAN,

WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE NAME, OUR COUNTERY TEACHED US THAT ALL THE NAMES ( PERSIAN OR ARABIAN OR THE GREAN )INDICATE TO THE SAME GULF

YOU CUOUNTERY HAS 1/3 FROM THE GULF AREA, SO YOU OWN THE NAME AS YOU WANTPERSIAN GULF OR IRANIAN GULF OR ANY THING ELSETHIS YOUR RIGHT .

AND ARABIAN PENINSULA HAS 2/3 FROM THE GULF AREA, ALL OF US WE SWEARE THAT WE DO PROTECT OUR LAND WITH ANY NAMEARABIAN OR PERSIAN OR IRANIAN OR THE GREEN OR THE GULF WITHOUT ANY NAMEIT IS OUR LAND AND LAND OF ALL MUSLIMS

AND WE WITH OUR COUNTERIES HAVE NO PROPLEM WITH INTERNATIONAL NAMEBECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE IN ALL NAME, PERSIAN GULF AS THE FIRST AS TO KEEP THE HISTORICAL NAMEED BY AL-AKSNDAR ...

FOR ARABS :

http://www.daralhayat.com/special/issues/08-2005/Item-20050813-b05cca5e-c0a8-10ed-00c7-49e46484629c/story.html 

AND FOR ALL OS US AS ISLAMIC COUNTERIES

«Zionist conspiracy to construct the ranks of Muslims»

Gulf Arab countries challenged U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates on American policies toward Iran and Israel, after he urged them to force Tehran to stop uranium enrichment.

Several delegates at the regional security conference in Bahrain on Saturday said the U.S. was hypocritical for supporting Israeli nuclear weapons, and questioned Washington's refusal to meet with Iran to discuss the Islamic state's nuclear activities.

ISRAEL MAKES THE DRESS OF WAR AND USA WEARS IT :

http://www.google.com/translate_t?sl=en&tl=ar

AND THEY ARE SAYING ABOUT US

"   In recent years, revisionism from certain groups has seen an attempt to change the name and history of this ancient gulf.  This site, like many others, seeks to preserve the history and the heritage of the Persian Gulf, and to prevent Pan Arabist dreams of eradicating Persia from the history books  "

AND THEY ARE SAING ABOUT YOU

Iranians around the world are up in arms over the publication of the National Geographic Society's new "Atlas of the World." The uproar is over the inclusion of "Arabian Gulf" as a secondary name for the "Persian Gulf," the body of water that lies between Iran and the Arabian Peninsula. Iran insists the area has for centuries been called the Persian Gulf. In protest, the government in Tehran has banned the sale of "National Geographic" magazine until the secondary name is removed. What's in a name?


Prague, 7 December 2004 (RFE/RL) .. The protests began with emails.

Several Iranians living in the United States noticed that in the new edition of the National Geographic Society's "Atlas of the World," "Arabian Gulf" was listed as a secondary name in parentheses for the body of water long known as the "Persian Gulf."

Alarmed, these Iranians abroad informed activists and reporters inside Iran.

"This issue actually started with e-mails by several Iranians living in Virginia, who have a subscription to National Geographic's atlas. Then a lengthy article was published in the reformist daily 'Shargh' in Tehran. After that, a wave of protests was generated against this move by the National Geographic Society in Iran's main dailies with different political affiliations," says Pejman Akbarzadeh, a young journalist and member of Artists Without Frontiers in Tehran.

More than 70,000 Iranians have signed an Internet petition titled "The Persian Gulf Will Remain Persian." It calls the new map "fraudulent and distorted" and demands an immediate correction.

Meanwhile, the Iranian government has banned National Geographic reporters from traveling to Iran and prohibited the sales of its publications until the company corrects the eighth edition of its world atlas.

Throughout history, the body of water between Iran and the Arabian Peninsula has been known as the "Persian Gulf." Most countries and international organizations still employ that name, though Arab nations tend to use "Arabian Gulf."

The United Nations adopted two documents .. one in 1971, the other in 1984 .. officially recognizing the area as the "Persian Gulf."

In a statement on its website, the National Geographic Society says that while it considers "Persian Gulf to be the primary name, it has been the society's cartographic practice to display a secondary name in parentheses when the use of such a name has become commonly recognized."

The National Geographic website has reportedly been flooded with protest emails from Iranians living in America. There are also reports of Iranians canceling their subscription to National Geographic Society publications.

The Internet is full of other pro-Persian Gulf activism. Type in "Arabian Gulf" in the popular Google search engine and up pop several web pages with messages such as: "The Gulf you're looking for does not exist .The correct name is Persian Gulf, which always has been and will remain, Persian."

Many Iranians consider the map offensive to Iran's ancient past.

"The people of Iran have always been very sensitive to any move to change this name or use a Persian Arabic name because they consider it a transgression on their historical memory and historical past and from this angle we can say that it has a scientific dimension and also a strong symbolic value because it is interconnected with the identity of a great civilization," says Saeed Peyvandi, a professor of sociology in Paris who specializes on Iran.

Akbarzadeh says the issue is being discussed even in the streets of Tehran.

"Many [people talked about it], in shops, in taxis, places you wouldn't even think of. Most Iranians referring to historical and geographical documents and also statements by the UN are calling for the correction of this mistake and the re-publishing of the 'Atlas,'" Akbarzadeh says.

Mohammad Ala is a professor of business in California and Iran and the president of the Persian Gulf organization, which seeks to preserve the gulf's heritage and sovereignty. He tells RFE/RL that there has been an outcry among Iranians across the world.

"We have received more than 4,000 e-mails from all over the world," Ala says. "Surprisingly, we have received emails from China, we have a lot of emails from Canada, several from France, Japan, we have several from the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait. In total, more than 40 countries are represented in the emails."

Iranians generally have a lot of national pride. Observers such as Professor Peyvandi say those sentiments have grown stronger since the establishment of the Islamic Republic.

"Since after the 1979 revolution, there has been a tendency to 'Arabize' the country—for example, the reintroduction of Arabic courses in schools," Peyvandi says. "This has always caused sensitivity among people and they have become more concerned with preserving their national identity and past, especially because this identity has so often been criticized by the Islamic establishment of Iran and because of that, people are even more sensitive."

For sensitive Iranians, however, there are signs their protests might be bearing fruit, according to Reza Pahlavi, Iran's former crown prince who lives in the United States.

His press office says in a statement issued yesterday that John M. Fahey, the head of the National Geographic Society, has personally told Pahlavi that his organization is "in the midst of an in-depth study and reflection on the merits of the use of a secondary name for the Persian Gulf."

09:25 AM May 17 2008 |

hekmer

hekmer

Saudi Arabia

NOW WE ARE MUST AWARE ABOUT OUR ENEMY WHO WANT TO TAKE ANY CHACE OCCPUR TO SEPARATE US AS DIFFERENT GROUPS TO BE EAZY MAKE WAR ON US

WAKE UP MUSLIMSWAKE UPWE NEED EACH OF OTHERTO BE STRONG ON THEIR FACE … 

 

09:38 AM May 17 2008 |

gkisseberth

Colombia

This seems to an outsider to be a rather silly argument, and the reaction to National Geographic by the government of Iran to be even sillier. 

 

I think the National Geographic naming makes sense. The primary name is the The Persian Gulf, as it is know by most of the world. However if there is a significant portion of the world that uses a different name, it seems reasonable to include it as a secondary name.  

 

There was a thread begun by dignified, I believe, that talked about the fighting amongst Muslim nations and their seeming inability to come together. This would seem to be a rather good example of that.

 

 

09:56 AM May 17 2008 |

hekmer

hekmer

Saudi Arabia

WE NEVER FIGHT , NEVER

YOU WANT US LIKE THAT

BUT NOR EVENIN YOUR DREAMS

ALL OF US KNOW THE PERSIAN GULF IS THE HISTRICAL NAME KNOWN TO ALL WORLD IN BETWEEN ALL ARABS' COUNTERIES .

AND IF WE NAMED AS ARABIAN GULF AS THE LOCAL GEOGRAPHICAL NAME  TO USTHAT IS OUR RIGHT BECAUSE WE OWN THE 2/3 OF AREA

AND NEVER PREVENT IRAN TO NAME IT AS THEY WANT AS THE LOCAL  GEOGRAPHIC NAME BECAUSE THEY OWN THE 1/3 , AND THAT 1/3  IS VERY VERY  LARGE

WE ARE AS ONE HAND, NEVER SEPARATE …. NEVER .

 

10:49 AM May 17 2008 |

roshandel

roshandel

Iran, Islamic Republic Of

Arab people and persian People are friend
But there is some ones who want create Fight

01:12 PM May 17 2008 |

hekmer

hekmer

Saudi Arabia

NOONE ONLY THE ENEMIES

11:24 AM May 18 2008 |

SEVENTH_ELEMENT

Iran, Islamic Republic Of

in god

11:43 AM May 18 2008 |

SEVENTH_ELEMENT

Iran, Islamic Republic Of

in god

11:43 AM May 18 2008 |

SEVENTH_ELEMENT

Iran, Islamic Republic Of

IN GOD: I THINK THERE SHOULD BE IMPORTANT THINGS,EXCEPT NAMES 

11:54 AM May 18 2008 |

RRAHIM

RRAHIM

United States

i am agree with you sasan  because  it was Persian , before Arabic comes to the world …we have some problem in north Africa  berberland or timouzgha its a land of amazigh berber but the arabic   etiologic the call it nation arab maghren arabic    westarab  and more  the make islam  and allah to be  RESPONSEBIL  ABOUT THE OTHER IN ISLAM, also the the change the names of placees in morocco and Algeria … to be arab   why the arab the like  to eliminate  other culture ?? why that map does nt container ISRAEL

For the past 3000 years it was called the Persian Gulf and it will remain that way no matter what some little arab states might say, the truth always hurts for those who want to alter the history.

In Legal terms, the United Nations has twice recognized the legality of the term "Persian Gulf" (UNAD 311/March 5, 1971 and UNLA 45.8.2 © on August 10, 1984). It is significant that all Arab countries have signed the UN documents.

01:18 PM May 18 2008 |