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this is what is a man i know  always saying and doing.he says that you can convince all people if you don't contradict them and make them believe what you like using some special techniques.he really succeeds in making us so obedient.he is a nice man but i think he is an oppressor with fine gloves.do you think so?most people around me say:there is no problem since we are convinced and don't feel frustrated.

using some special techniques;; what are those  techniques?

Do you mean using NLP,,Nervous Lingistic program?

May be he is oppressor  but not all time…and not all men

There are many ways to let people believe what you want them to believe. Some more subtile than others.

History is full of examples, "charismatic" leaders who were blindly followed, made people act against their own judgement or convinced a whole nation of their ideas.

For the good or for the bad, a rebellion leader does this, a tyrant does this, a guru does this.

Every sect, makes use of such techniques. Every member of a sect, is convinced they are there out of free will.

Magicians and illusionists use the power of suggestion to make airplanes disappear and walk over water.

The human mind can be tricked in many ways.

i agree oonah. the human mind can be tricked in many ways.i think we should be more conscious about that and don't follow others blindly.

hakimi.i don't think he is following that program.he simply never contradict some one. he is a good listener.he defends his opinion carefully and put yours in a dark corner.he is funny and knows how to find areas for agreement .

but, my idea is that he gives the importance to only his opinion and thinks it's absolute truth even he gives you the right to say yours and think what you like.

 imposing your opinion on others is oppression though it's done with their agreement.

"""the human mind can be tricked in many ways.i think we should be more conscious about that and don't follow others blindly"""

manipulation,is a awful illness which is creeping through all societies…and some manipulation you can't see in the first moment…that there is psychological manipulation,in politic in religion,in business everybody know…but in the private life it is awful,when a friend put on fine gloves in order to manipulate you…its a play for him…i think this kind of people most time are inside weak, they want to be the greatest,they need the feeling to stand on a higher level….but inside they have lose often their identity

manipulation that's the right word. they are hiding their cruel aims under a  cover of nice and funny words.i agree they are weak and they want to have a strong and beautiful image.we have to  be  honest .if we disagree with someone,why should we hide it?

Dear Lilimira,

I feel that no one should impose his ideas upon others & no one has the right to manupilate other.Manupilations are very common in our world.But opressionis very common in our society,all teachers are doing so ,all political & even religious leaders are doing so,all gurus are doing so,all military is doing so.All advertisers are doing so.women uses man for his purpose & man uses woman for his purpose,all kind of uses are dirty,all kinds of manupilations are dirty,all kinds of pressures are dirty,even people like Mahatma Gandhi did so,what t o talk of common people.This is the accepted way of life.it is never questiond,atleast I have no knowldge of it .

How can we save someone from such influences,It's our own responsiblity towards our self,we accept views of others out of our greed,ignorance or fear.We should be aware enogh so that nobody may use us.But this kind of awareness can be a blessing of existence only.

But it's very difficult to avoid them,because when we born here upon this earth our mind is empty like a computer machine,What kind of software feeds in us depends upon them,we learn what we are taught,our dictitionary,vecabulary,all are inherited,so how can we save us,it's nearly impossible.

Only God has the capacity to bless us with the eye of awareness to recgnise the whole game & save ourself from influences of others.

But it's not always wrong,we learn good ideas from it also,how shall we move towards religion ?If we move according to existential style we shall be considered animals & nobody would like to move like animals.

 hi friends

as father i sometimes  think, where is the borderline between education and manipulation…the following quote  i don't like, it's not my convince,but nevertheless it is the reality, i think not only in Germany.

"""The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organised habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country."""

You can deceive some people for sometimes, but you never deceive all people all time…so, I can believe in someone who can make me charmed for sometime, but after this magic "go", I will know the truth.

It maybe good that you deceive by anybody, that will teach you to take care and use your mind before your eyes.

Regards 

Friends,

Yes there is difference between manupilations & education,but we must keep our eyes open& recognise the words

I would like to recognise them through the spirit that if they are leading me towards 'me' & my God they are to be followed & that is not manupilatition but guidence or education. 

Friends,

Yes there is difference between manupilations & education,but we must keep our eyes open& recognise the words

I would like to recognise them through the spirit that if they are leading me towards 'me' & my God they are to be followed & that is not manupilatition but guidence or education. 

Regards