would you still believe?

Just for a moment, entertain the possibility that scientists could disprove a particular religious beleif. 

IF scientists disproved your religious belief, would you still continue to beleive, despite the scientific evidence against it?  

@gkiss

Yes, I would. thank you for asking me instead of assuming, as Memo and samisiami do, that if science disproved atheism (i.e. proved the existence of a god) that I would continue to disbelieve.

I bet you know that many scientists are deists or theists. According to your saying you must just see dawkins as the only scientists in the world. 

Why is it that believers can't eem to even entertain such a hypothetical? Is it fear of some kind?

 It is not fear. The existence of God is proven to us, so why do we need to make an illusion and say if science disproved the religious belief etc..?

I'm able to do that, but I don't remember any beleivers being able to entertain the opposite supposition.

I thought you were the 6-Atheist. :)  Your statement is wrong because there wouldn't be converts to other religions and beliefs if it was true. 

But such a belief or lack thereof is based on evidence, facts, or the lack of evidence or facts. 

Maybe you think that our world is far forward scientifically and tells us the truth. But remember we still don't know what is on Mars and remember we still don't know what is under 11 km in the ocean.  Even Darwin's theory of evolution isn't proven. So what evidences are you talking about? and what facts? 

Oh, that's my point gkissberth, if scientists could disapprove my belief, I would certainly stop believing in it.

You seem to be in the minority among god beleivers, but bravo for you. 

Fortunately scientists seem to support my belief.

What can I do, I just can not help it. 

If you know of scientific proof for the existence of a god (yours or any other) I would love to see it. Many scientists may believe in some god, but faith and evidence are not the same.  

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Gkiss, can you read again my answer to this question ???? 

Science is only a tool in a physical world to guess the truth and reach wisdom

Science without Wisdom aint nuthing but a the bad edge… 

In that case, you have the malady of science, you think science of the matterial world is everything…forgetting the spiritual side… 

When you get one inch of wisdom, you'll understand what is Science, and Wisdom… 

I c any great scientist or genius who claim against God, is nuthing but showin his stupidity and his stupidity and very bad background in ethical education.

I bet you know that many scientists are deists or theists. According to your saying you must just see dawkins as the only scientists in the world. 

Yes, I know that many are. Ask them WHY they believe and I also know most of them will not say because science has proven God's existence. They believe for the sme reasons you do. If the number of beleivers was somehow evidence of God's existence, then we would have to conclude that the Christian god is the real one. 

 It is not fear. The existence of God is proven to us, so why do we need to make an illusion and say if science disproved the religious belief etc..?

it's a thought experiment. Can you stretch your mind to imagine something you think is unimaginable? Can your faith withstand a challenge to your worldview?  

 I thought you were the 6-Atheist. :)  Your statement is wrong because there wouldn't be converts to other religions and beliefs if it was true. 

what statement is wrong? I said that believers don't seem to be able to imagine that god doesn't exist. That's different from just changing religions.

Maybe you think that our world is far forward scientifically and tells us the truth. But remember we still don't know what is on Mars and remember we still don't know what is under 11 km in the ocean. 

That's the cool thing about science is that we are learning more every day. Would you rather we just look to the Q'ran for knowledge about what's on Mars? What DOES it say about that, anyway?)

Even Darwin's theory of evolution isn't proven. So what evidences are you talking about? and what facts? 

Well, let's leave eolution to it's own threads, but as I said, my lack of belief in your god or others is based on a lack of evidence. Likewise,as I answered Java, with credible evidence, I would believe. 

Gkiss, Can you tell me what is Evidence according to "you" ?

Yes, I know that many are. Ask them WHY they believe and I also know most of them will not say because science has proven God's existence. They believe for the sme reasons you do. If the number of beleivers was somehow evidence of God's existence, then we would have to conclude that the Christian god is the real one.

:D remember you are in the number of christians, too. so it is weird to believe such numbers. As I said "science" is not that far to research the ocean at first, so do you think it will prove God's existence?  And it also can't disprove it and your dawkins will not say because science has disproven God's existence. 

 If you think about a DNA; if you think about that we humans are the only creatures which can use their brains and think;  if you think that the world is so formal; if you think that the world was 1 m far or nearer to the sun what would happen? etc.  these are proves for God. these are proves for any God i.e. not the Islamic God or Christian God but any God.

There is no doubt that God exists. 

what statement is wrong? I said that believers don't seem to be able to imagine that god doesn't exist. That's different from just changing religions.

why should I think about something stupid instead of something logical? If I ask you where do you come from you cant answer this question correctly but we can answer this question easily. why should I think that god doesnt exists although it really exists. It is like: I have a car  and I have to imagine that I dont have a car and go to school on foot. Is that useful?

That's the cool thing about science is that we are learning more every day. Would you rather we just look to the Qur'an for knowledge about what's on Mars? What DOES it say about that, anyway?

Yes, I would. But in a different way.  The Qur'an doesnt say what is on mars but it says that we should use our brains and research everything without going on a shirk. God wants us to learn everything by us because He wouldn't give us the brain if that wasn't true. 

If a Muslim says you "read the Qur'an" that doesnt mean that there is every kind of science and knowledge. But there are the keys to the science and everything in the Qur'an. But there is a rule: you need to use your brain and get the keys correctly. 

If God showed you an evidence then you would believe? If you turn around and look at the sky and the environment, you can understand that you are in the world for something special. There were many proves of God in the history. I don't think the stories of the prophets are just tales..

Gkiss: another question

Telll me how do Science deny God ? 

I want your scientific explanation that God does not exist 

please answer me this question 

If you know of scientific proof for the existence of a god (yours or any other) I would love to see it.

It would be my pleasure :)

Many scientists may believe in some god, but faith and evidence are not the same. 

Very true, "Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God. Scientists today are eliminating models of God, but they are not eliminating God."

Would you rather we just look to the Q'ran for knowledge about what's on Mars? What DOES it say about that, anyway?

" The Qur’an is not a book of Science, ‘S-C-I-E-N-C-E’ but a book of Signs ‘S-I-G-N-S’ i.e. a book of ayaats. The Qur’an contains more than 6,000 ayaats, i.e. ‘signs’, out of which more than a thousand speak about Science. It is not a trying to prove that the Qur’an is the word of God using scientific knowledge as a yardstick because any yardstick is supposed to be more superior than what is being checked or verified.

But for an educated man who is an atheist, scientific knowledge is the ultimate test which he believes in. It is known that science many a times takes ‘U’ turns, therefore let's have restricted the examples only to scientific facts which have sufficient proof and evidence and not scientific theories based on assumptions."

 gkissberth, If a new object or a machine, which no one in the world has ever seen or heard of before, is shown to you or any other person and then a question is asked, " Who is the first person who will be able to provide details of the mechanism of this unknown object and operate it?" What would you say?

Just for a moment, entertain the possibility that scientists could disprove a particular religious beleif. 

IF scientists disproved your religious belief, would you still continue to beleive, despite the scientific evidence against it? 

I think, related this topic, we need see in fact. Not just make imagination!!!

What is religion that we talk about??

how is the statement or evidences of scientific that against religion. 

What do u mean here is Islam religion or others??