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handwriter

handwriter

Norway

October 25, 2012

Compassion Is What Will Save Us Where Nothing Else Will or Can..

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07:46 AM Nov 06 2012

handwriter

handwriter
Norway

I truly believe that it will be TIME itself that will judge us as to whether we had been compassionate or not.

07:08 PM Nov 05 2012

ola33

ola33
Japan

It's all leads to it. When you see the other person's emotions, it activates your emotions. You feel the experience of the person, consider your own values ( that's an interesting part, where values might be different ones). One doesn't need to empathize with the sufferings of someone, another feels an urgent need to help. See the difference. How can it be - compassion is one abstract notions but there's totally different reflection. You think you're a helping person, but in reality by the reflecting world, you're not. Many people are passing by the homeless sitting downtown with the hand asking for money. Some are very aggressive saying that he should go to work, some don't even think about his being is worth of thinking, the other give him money experiencing his pain, his freezing to death, his mental disease. But those two people think they're compassionate. Are they?

Well, it's my speculation. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my opinion. Good night :)

06:34 PM Nov 05 2012

Ryo

Ryo
Saudi Arabia

will i never born kid .

Unless you think we are not Compassion .

But for me the way   how  people   deal in  what   you  mentions    is something else  and  diffrent   topic  far    from  Compassion   or  not  .


 

06:30 PM Nov 05 2012

ola33

ola33
Japan

We? Smile Ryo, I think you're very compassionate, genius and kind person.

06:11 PM Nov 05 2012

Ryo

Ryo
Saudi Arabia

will  i never  born  kid .

But for me      the  way  how   to deal   somtimes   is something else far   from Compassion   or  none Compassion .


 Unless   you think  we  are  not Compassion .

05:58 PM Nov 05 2012

ola33

ola33
Japan

Laughing Oh, Ryo, aren't we all big kids?

05:58 PM Nov 05 2012

Ryo

Ryo
Saudi Arabia

i got mixed aleardy are we Discusseing Compassion OR Kids Issue:)?

05:12 PM Nov 05 2012

ola33

ola33
Japan

Yes, Ryo, I agree with your words about monitoring and evaluating the behavior. Always aking questions - why am I doing that and what's the purpose of it. Especially on the Internet where everyone can say anything and get away with it. Lots of freedom. In real life, people think twice before saying something.  

03:44 PM Nov 05 2012

Ryo

Ryo
Saudi Arabia

A lot of people will agree on compassion
and could    talk about compassion 
and You may find that even among the people that are characterized as violence.


I think that compassion is something that grows in us  ,
 

But  our  experience  in life and  our  mind     could  change  the  way   we observe   compassion.


Our mind   and our humanity and morals that necessitate us how to behave.

02:33 PM Nov 05 2012

Irene Forever
Ukraine

Hello dear Doni,

Compassion is the greatest feeling of all. It settles everything: beginning from the desire to live and finishing the ability to love. Love is compassion to neighbour as there is no love without compassion.

Cruelty has never won in the end. If an animal has to kill in order to live, it does it with compassion. I noticed that predators know how to kill  in order a victim didn't suffer for long. Isn't it compassion? But people do it in other ways: enjoying killings as if they were winners. People should learn many things from animals.

02:07 PM Nov 05 2012

ola33

ola33
Japan

What is compassion - it's deep awareness of the suffering of the victim with the wish to relieve it.

In order to fullfill this action, it's worth of knowing yourself, how the world relates to you. We often see ourselves as we see, helpfull and reliable, but the other sees differently. When you discover yourself, (new zebra), it would be easier for you to help others, to forgive others, to help them in case of emergency, just to be better personalities.

By chaning zebra's appearance, I meant the discovery of your talents and limitations, knowing yourslef better.

01:58 PM Nov 05 2012

ola33

ola33
Japan

 Thank you, handwriter Laughing 

01:45 PM Nov 05 2012

handwriter

handwriter
Norway

So Ola would you conclude that compassion is most easily demonstrated when adapted as is the appearance of your 'New' zebra?  I would think that it would be much easier to be compassionate when one isn't having to worry about survival. 

I throughly enjoyed your comments - excellent. 

01:37 PM Nov 05 2012

handwriter

handwriter
Norway

Transgression of the law is idolatry: the reason of men’s condemning all jurisdiction and power proceeds from their idolizing their own wit. They make their own prudence omnipotence, they suppose themselves infallible; they set up their own opinions and worship them. But this vain idolatry will inevitably fail before experimental knowledge which is an enemy to all manner of false superstitions, so especially to that of men’s adoring themselves and their own fancies. Thomas Spratt

12:58 PM Nov 05 2012

ola33

ola33
Japan

It's ok, Ryo. :)

12:52 PM Nov 05 2012

Ryo

Ryo
Saudi Arabia

Too  much   than  whats  make thing   confused.

11:33 AM Nov 05 2012

ola33

ola33
Japan

And what if Zebra for the sake of self defence will discover extraodinary talents in its personality and will stay safe without hurting a lion who will feel guilty after or just herself without being hurt and had been eaten. We don't know what we're capable of. Just found a picture and got a new idea. Also a compassion not to make anyone feeling awkward. To see the difference between yourself and the others, find your weekeness and strong points and recall your experience. With this a new Zebra.

 

10:50 AM Oct 30 2012

Ryo

Ryo
Saudi Arabia

aggressive I like  it

09:17 AM Oct 30 2012

handwriter

handwriter
Norway

Have you ever heard of the German word, Schadenfreude? Schadenfreude is the pleasure that people experience over the misfortunes of another person. There is no equivalent English word. Anyway, normally, we feel bad, or at least indifferent, when bad things happen to other people, but sometimes we actually 

experience a bit of pleasure. 

There are a couple of puzzling things about Schadenfreude. Is 

Schadenfreude genuinely a distinct emotion, or is it just pleasure —

specifically, pleasure that is caused by another person’s misfortune? 

What is its action tendency, or what does Schadenfreude motivate 

people to do?

Again, life needs to kill so that it can survive, but can life kill in the spirit of love and compassion for that which much die so that life can continue?

My understanding of the lion and the zebra is one of great compassion and understanding.  The zebra knows that the lion must kill it so that the lion may live.  Also, the lion knows that the zebra is willing to give up its life so that the lion can live - the lion takes to enjoyment out of the need to kill the zebra - the lion respects and honors the zebra's great love, understanding and compassion for the life - the natural order of things - so much so that it is willing to give up his life for a life.

08:50 AM Oct 30 2012

handwriter

handwriter
Norway

About understanding one another - is it absolutely necessary to understand someone before we can truly love and respect that person?  Look, I know that at times I don't even understand myself, but I would like to think that I respect myself.  Does a person who believes in a God - a God of whom they love and respect - does that person understand all there is to know about his/her God?

08:29 AM Oct 30 2012

handwriter

handwriter
Norway

Funny - funny how just when I think that I am getting a sense of understanding you people, I read comments such as yours, and I realize how very far apart we really are.  Yes, I know that communication even through the medium of one's native tongue can be very complexed - and then to add trying to translate or to read through faulty punctuation or wording? - well, it seems nearly to be an impossible task.  I respect you - I always have, but too I know that we have had our share of misunderstandings.  But I would like to believe that it is that awareness that has kept us as friends.  We know that neither one of us is perfect; we understand that it can be next to impossible to communicate clearly and precisely our thoughts and opinions without some misunderstandings and disagreements - especially through the medium of writing.  I am sure that many of my woes are due to exactly that - misunderstandings.  Whenever I would have sent a message to someone in one language and they had used a bilingual translator, I knew that I was in trouble - I was called to explain and/or to justify my words, or worse, people would simply think that I was... well, a monster.  Neither one of us is perfect, but yet I know that we love and respect each other in spite of our differences, idiosyncrasies, weaknesses, faults, beliefs or hangups - eccentricities.  I love you and respect you as I truly believe that you love and respect me.  Compassion - that is the key to our survival and well-being.  We do not need to always agree or understand each other - as I have pointed out, misunderstanding is part of being human.  And as far as agreeing on any one subject - well let's just say that no one can see through the eyes of another. 

06:27 AM Oct 30 2012

handwriter

handwriter
Norway

Dear Irene,

Your words came to me as a cool, and comforting breeze on an otherwise hot and clammy day.  Thank you.  I would like to impress on you and others that my intention here was not to greater divide the thoughts and feelings of others, but to possibly try and bring all of us a little closer with words of encouragement - encouragement to possibly try to be a little more understanding - compassionate - of the thoughts, beliefs and status of others.  

As for 'Ryo's' thoughts and feelings, I felt no threat nor condemnation - rather I sensed his sensitivity to maybe his beliefs and/or his call to duty to respond to anything that may argue against his beliefs.

Again, I meant no offense to anyone.  As well, I did not intend to cast judgment on anyone.  I sense that the world is polarized enough without any encouragement from me.  Now was I being judgmental in suggesting that maybe the world is polarized?  No, I don't think so. I think that I was merely putting into words the thoughts that already exist in the minds of many.

And to you Ryo, and not as an attempt to signal you out, but rather to invite you to continue expressing your feelings about all this - and to do it in whatever manner you care to do so.  I value your opinions, as I do everyone else's. 

Irene, I did not at any one time feel under-appreciated.  

And as for you Ola33, I strongly appreciated your comments and thoughts - best wishes to you and yours.  

I wish all of you a long and happy life.

With love and honor,

doni

12:25 AM Oct 30 2012

Irene Forever
Ukraine

Dear Handwriter, thank you for having  this note posted. I understood all you wanted  to say and being absolutely agree with you, bring my apology if I expressed my ideas in not appropriate way. It was also a pleasure for me  to read Olya's, my very positive friend, comments.

Ryo, to tell the truth, I don't always understand what you want to say, and I didn't like your sharp and aggressive comments here. We are all on the site  to express our emotions in an intelligent way in order not to offend others.

Handwriter, sorry again,

Wish you a great day and a nice time on Ebaby.

Irene

06:19 PM Oct 29 2012

Ryo

Ryo
Saudi Arabia

I've thought about that since my childhood
  Andwhats   i  reached   to   it   at that time
   strong 
Remains     thats   was  very clear .

 

04:56 PM Oct 29 2012

handwriter

handwriter
Norway

I obligate no one to see my view of things.  I am not trying to get anyone to understand me, nor do I pretend to be trying to understand others.  I have not personally invited anyone to read or comment on my post.  Now as far as 'the need to kill.'  What if we all simply decided not to kill - refused to play the game of life - this life of killing or being killed?  What if the lion decided not to kill the zebra to survive?  One thing for sure, as we need to eat to exist, so too do animals (it's part of this life that I don't understand).  The lion, if it did not kill, would die.  But so too, the zebra would die.  If the number of zebras that existed at one time was not numbered by 'selection', they, the zebras, in their uncontrolled mass number would consume up all the vegetation that is necessary for their existence - they, as the lion, would cease to exist - as would we.  There must be a balance in all things - as well, there must be an opposite in all things.  As for my 'personification', I do not care to be understood or misunderstood or agreed with or disagreed with. 1.  I did not say anything about anything being a woman or even human for that matter - I made no animal/human comparisons. 2. No one or anything is more generous than any other thing - man or animal.  We are here, man and animal, to serve some purpose - a purpose that I do not claim to know or understand.  However, for us to survive we must kill - even the zebra. Does it not kill the grass that it eats, and is not this grass a living thing?  So you tell me, why is it that life seems to depend on death to continue?  All I would like to say is that while we are alive - eating or being eaten - that we live our lives as compassionate and humbly as we can.

02:12 PM Oct 29 2012

ola33

ola33
Japan

There's no gender here to me.

02:04 PM Oct 29 2012

Ryo

Ryo
Saudi Arabia

 For me,  Worst war is more purity than sexism.

10:57 AM Oct 29 2012

Irene Forever
Ukraine

Handwriter, definitely the links are important  for both humans and animals. Almost all animals when born  are " sweet kittens" untill they realize what they are. All babies are innocent. Afterwrds, life begins its grandiose changes and amends.  A lion cub becomes a lion, and a colt becomes a zebra. What should a lion do, if it needs  to live?  To kill in order to live. Zebra doesn't  need killing, but if it needed it, a zebra would do it.  

 Links are necessary  in any case. At least all of us need  sweethearts  to make  couples.

09:43 AM Oct 29 2012

ola33

ola33
Japan

It's ok.

07:39 AM Oct 29 2012

ola33

ola33
Japan

Ryo, what happened?:)

It's such a stylistic device called personifcation. Usually it's introduced in Aesop and Krylov fables. When animals are given human characteristics to teach moral for humans. It's like a fable when animals are often personified. A lion and zebra in real life will never give each other a hug :)) but humans do, Ryo even though they're different personalities.