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Why does Allah threat disbelievers as if they had committed thousands of crimes?

birgül1

Turkey

Lets discuss that:

Because,the evil spirits and thoso who follow them can cause great destractions with small acts.And they can cause big harms with small deeds.And they can violate the rights of the others.

For example:

There is a big merchant ship.On this ship there is a man whom duty is steermen.İf this man  only didnt steer, this small deed could cause the ship,the aims of the ship,the other men on the duty destroy.

Now,this man cant say,I only didnt steer,I dint do anything,Iam innocent.

And the owner of the ship complain about this man and this man deserve very big punishment.

In exactly same way, the people of misguidince transgress against the rights of numerous creatures and nullify the results of their elevated duties.

For example,all the creatures have wisdom duties.All creature except human obey Allah,All creatures,stars,sun,clouds,rain,earth,animals,plants,seas,everything tell Allah and who Allah is.

But disbeliever claim that all creatures dont have duties,they are created by coincidince,by cueses and they dont tell Allah.So,disbelievers transgress against the rights of all creatures.

So,Allah threats disbelievers. 

the original article:

http://www.nur.gen.tr/en/Risale/Risale.html?islem=index&KitapId=18#leftmenu=Risale&maincontent=Risale&islem=read&KitapId=20&BolumId=744&KitapAd=The+Flashes&Page=112

07:23 PM May 17 2008 |

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birgül1

Turkey

jav.

if Allah didnt send prophets and holy books,this would be merciless.

because,Allah created human in order to worship to god.(what does ''worship'' mean?we have to talk about it,also.why does Allah want us to worship?why are fast,pray … important for human?which acts are worship?)

this belief is wrong:Allah created all beings(space,sun,moon,air,water,food etc…....)and also god created human,too.and then god set human free.human can do whatever he wants.Allah didnt warn human,god didnt tell human what god wanted human to do.Allah didnt send guiding books and prophets who told human what was true,what was wrong.

Allah doesnt take into consideration guilty and innocent people,Allah doesnt punish people who causes big destructions,Allah doesnt reward people who try to do good acts,get soryy for their sins.

Holy books and prohepts were sent as guides to us.

thanks to all of them,we can learn about our creature(how one is our creature?,is god fair or unfair?,what does god want us to do?,why did god created this universe and human,?,what will god do us?what is wisdom?).we can learn where will go,what we will do,what is wrong,what is correct exactly from them.

otherwise,that is,propehts and holy books wouldnt have been sent,we couldnt know our path.

06:32 PM May 21 2008 |

mike_gwen

mike_gwen

Indonesia

It seems that muhammed was a person with a great ability at war tactics and remembering things also makes a very detailed explanation about quran(???).btw how old was he when being in that write-down process?as a human being,he also must have advantages and weakness.was his weakness also revealed to moslem?there’s smone in his whole life did so many evil deeds.then in the last minutes(maybe 10 minutes before his time.so he being a moslem only in the last 9 minutes-plus)of his life,he believe and have faith in islam.is he going to heaven eventually?

09:49 AM May 22 2008 |

javamanju

javamanju

India

Mike good questions….. You probably won't even get a straight answer for that.. theses people have been brain washed to think that "their" god, "their" religion, "their" heaven. A human has to make a lots of mistake in his life, some mistakes commited have been glorified by these people eg- bhurkas, jihad,kafirs(infidels)

According to them Infedils should be killed. Who is a infidel??? Is it  a non muslim… I wonder what prophet mohamad might have felt if he come to earth now?

He would be a very sad man, Seeing his followers kill people in his name and god's name…

12:25 PM May 22 2008 |

monatta

monatta

Saudi Arabia

 

 

How old was he when being in that write-down process?

 

Mike  ,  he was  40 years old when he became a prophet  by receiving the order of god and the first verses from the Qur'an

 

 

 

as a human being,he also must have advantages and weakness.was his weakness also revealed to moslem?

 

There are some beautiful aspects  - prophet have -  you might consider them  as a weakness in his character   especially if you do not believe in him    .  I want to tell you about them but not know because I need some translated verses of  Qur'an    .  and effort to write  some events happened with our prophet in his time by english language  .  so wait and you will find the answer later on  .  

 

But let me tell you something

 

 

 all muslims  suna and shia  believes prophet commited no mistake in revealing the religion and in  transforming  quran and rules of god .

 

This is not the  blindness of love  ,  it is what god said about him in the holy qur'an . when some people  accused him of saying out of his desire  :

 

 

[1] By the Star when it goes down,       [2]      Your Companion(prophet)  is neither astray nor being misled,      [3]    Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) Desire.    [4]     It is no less than inspiration sent down to him:     [5]    He was taught by one Mighty in Power

 

 

God also said in the Qur'an that if Mohamed said something out of his mind or desire , he will be punished  , read  it here  :

 

 

[44] And if the Messenger were to invent any sayings in Our name,    [45] We should certainly seize him by his right hand,    [46] And We should certainly then cut off the artery of his heart:    [47] Nor could any of you withhold him (from Our wrath).      [48] But verily this is a Message for the God-fearing.      [49] And We certainly know that there are amongst you those that reject (it).  [50] But truly (Revelation) is a cause of sorrow for the Unbelievers.     [51] But verily it is Truth of assured certainty.      [52] So glorify the name of thy Lord Most High 

 

  

So  all believes what prophet says is what god taught him no more nor less  .

 

 

there’s smone in his whole life did so many evil deeds.then in the last minutes(maybe 10 minutes before his time.so he being a moslem only in the last 9 minutes-plus)of his life,he believe and have faith in islam.is he going to heaven eventually?

 

Sorry , but this decision will not  benefit this person  if he take it will he is dying    ,  this is clearly  revealed in qur'an  .

 

 read this verses which answer your questions :

 

The forgiveness is not for those who do ill-deeds until, when death attendeth upon one of them, he saith: Lo! I repent now; nor yet for those who die while they are disbelievers. For such We have prepared a painful doom.

 

Other verses :

 

99] (In Falsehood will they be) until, when death comes to one of them, he says: "O my Lord! send me back (to life),

[100] "In order that I may work righteousness in the things I neglected" – "By no means! It is but a word he says." – Before them is a Partition till the Day they are raised up.

 

 

And another

 

26] Yea, when (the soul) reaches to the collar-bone (in its exit),

[27] And there will be a cry, "Who is a magician (to restore him)?"

[28] And he will conclude that it was (the Time) of Parting;

[29] And one leg will be joined with another:

[30] That Day the Drive will be (all) to thy Lord!

[31] So he gave nothing in charity, nor did he pray!

[32] But on the contrary, he rejected Truth and turned away!

[33] Then did he stalk to his family in full conceit!

[34] Woe to thee, (O man!), yea, woe!

[35] Again, woe to thee, (O man!), yea, woe!

[36] Does Man think that he will be left uncontrolled, (without purpose)? 

37] Was he not a drop of sperm emitted (in lowly form)?

[38] Then did he become a clinging clot; then did (Allah) make and fashion (him) in due proportion.

[39] And of him He made two sexes, male and female.

[40] Has not He, (the same), the power to give life to the dead?

 

02:56 PM May 22 2008 |

monatta

monatta

Saudi Arabia

I wonder what prophet mohamad might have felt if he come to earth now?

He would be a very sad man, Seeing his followers kill people in his name and god's name…

 

yes  ,  you are right ,  prophet will be so sad  for knowing innocent people killed by muslims  .  

 

mass  

03:07 PM May 22 2008 |

Jane Doe

Jane Doe

Indonesia

Monatta, you should put bad muslims over there ;) only those who know the real meaning of their religion wont hurt or kill other in the name of the GodWink

 

And Mark..American Idol and Top soccer player? lol you should be a teacher for real Laughing you have the ability to talk about something complicated in a simple way..sort of.lol.

03:28 PM May 22 2008 |

birgül1

Turkey

marc,

you reminded me something about ''lie''.

what is your opinion about the thread '' a big lie''?you and Jav. are more interested in Islam than evolution.

also,as ı said,ı would like to thank you for your endevours for helping us to learn and tell Islam.İf you werent, it was a probability that Islam couldnt grow so fast.

Luckily,you are here.again,thanks.

lets come to the questions.my answers are below:

04:12 PM May 22 2008 |

birgül1

Turkey

1. Muhammed claims to have met Gabriel. A claim is different from a fact

not only Muhammed(pbuh) but the other prophets met lots of times with Gabriel,too.

 

2. As for distinguishing truth and lies, my experience here at Ebaby! is that no Muslim can consistently do that.

we show only the proofs.but someone who uses only his eyes to distinguish tru and untrue cannot ''see'' the proofs.

ability of judge,thinking deeply,comparing etc..is ''definetely'' necessary.

04:23 PM May 22 2008 |

birgül1

Turkey

3. The 'miracles' shown by prophets have never been proven. They may be lies. They may be embellished. This means that your method of distinguishing true prophets and false ones is fatally flawed.

disbelievers at the time of Muhammed(pbuh) coulnt say that ''we didnt see any miracles''.they could only say''we see some magics.Muhammed was bewitched us''

if they didint see any extraordinary events,they would say Muhammed didnt any extraordinary events.but all of them said ''we saw him made magic.this fact is written in history.

also,you know,all prophets(jesus,moses,solomon,david) were supported by miracles,too 

you will find very usefull explanations and miracles of Muhammed(pbuh) in this link:

http://www.nur.gen.tr/en/Risale/Risale.htmlislem=index&KitapId=18#maincontent=Risale&islem=read&KitapId=21&BolumId=738&KitapAd=Letters&Page=128

4. Sacrificing your life to tell people the truth does not make you a prophet. It does not even make you religious.

it is the one of criterions.

thousands of companians of Muhammed(pbuh) always (day and night) observed,investigated search his moral,acts,worship,seriosness,fear of god etc..and they coulnt see any hesitation,any laziniess,any bad moral,any fear of enemy,any anxiety,any brazenfaced etc…..

you and noone except prophet cannot make thosands of people to sacrifice their all whealty,sometimes relatives and live.

you can read about him,who he was,in this link

http://www.nur.gen.tr/en/Risale/Risale.html?islem=index&KitapId=18#maincontent=Risale&islem=read&BolumId=841&KitapId=18&KitapAd=The+Words

 http://www.nur.gen.tr/en/Risale/Risale.html?islem=index&KitapId=18#maincontent=Risale&islem=read&BolumId=841&KitapId=18&KitapAd=The+Words

04:46 PM May 22 2008 |

birgül1

Turkey

5. The prophets you mentioned did not solve the origin of the world. Most (All?) of them didn't even know that the world is spherical.

if he said to people of his age ''the world is spherical,there are a lot of galaxies,DNA,cromozom,computers etc.. are wonderfull'',could people understand anything?

quran tells ''why are human here and who is their creator''.

this is the origin of the world.

quran isnt a history book,not a biology book,not a astronomy book…

but in quran,there are a lot of signs to new discoveries.it only includes of signs of them,because quran is sent all people of ages and the first people coulnt the these discoveries.

 you can find these signs of discoveries in quran,here:

http://www.nur.gen.tr/en/Risale/Risale.html?islem=index&KitapId=18#leftmenu=Risale&maincontent=Risale&islem=read&BolumId=842&KitapId=18&KitapAd=The+Words

04:57 PM May 22 2008 |