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Who saved Muhammeds(SAV)'s grave? Ataturk!




During the 1930's the king of Saudi Arabia began to demolish all the graves in the country because visiting the graves was a sin according to their beliefs. When it was time to demolish the grave of prophet Muhammed all of the muslims in Arabia request help from Mustafa Kemal Ataturk(great founder of Turkish Republic) and he sent a note to the king of Arabia saying if he have touched any stone of the Muhammed's grave he would pay really much worth of this behaviour (may be war or another thing). Then the grave is still there.. Now people are talking about that Ataturk was not a real muslim, he changed the state of country, stopped caliphate.. When we think about all the things, revolutions he had made there is no way besides obeying his way. He was a great man that all the public leaders Che Guavera, Fidel Castro or others walked with Ataturk's light. When Che was dead the book of Ataturk "Nutuk (speech)" was found in his bag. You can search this. If there is someone that we must try to understand that is Ataturk.

08:41 AM Nov 13 2008 |

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hımm..i didn't know anything about that..if that is tru it is the best proof to show that there is no one who can make the things Atatürk did..he is clever and know what to do and when to do..

thanks onur erdem..

08:48 AM Nov 13 2008 |




If Ataturk had kept caliphet how could he build a democratic republic? Do you see any democracy in Muslim countries? Result is they are not a power in the world. Only selling natural resources. If the caliphet had remained whose words would be more valuable? He would try to manage people according to himself. It would turn back to kingdom if the caliphet had remained. Turkey is the only country that founded under the democratic rules. Every person(also women) gained the right to vote and have right to be in the parliment before every modern country. Ataturk built a modern country to us but it was the only one in Muslim world so some sides didn't want to see Turkey as a modern power country so too many games have being played on Turkey. You know. You have all the rights to live your religion in Turkey, all religions are peacely alive in Turkey. So why do you want an islamic state? What will the country gain if islamic rules are in operation?

08:54 AM Nov 13 2008 |




Yuna can you please tell more about your ideas, you are living in Saudi. Can you talk about caliphate, your beliefs on graves.. When a person (hajji) of another country dies in Arabia his/her body can't be moved to his home country for burial. That is not allowed. Why? Is this because of the Arabia is sacred land and deads can't be taken out?

12:26 PM Nov 13 2008 |




Yuna thank you, now I have changed my mind or I can comment on news better with your help. I think I had mixed too many things together and create a claim. But with your explanation now everyone can learn something about islamic view in this topic.


02:10 PM Nov 13 2008 |




Yuna how could you write all these in English, very well interpretation.

02:11 PM Nov 13 2008 |




This is true and we have the proof of it "the telegraph" in which Atatürk says" I've learned in pain that Hz Muhammed's grave will be demolished. You can not tocuh this sacred trust. If I hear even one of its stone is damaged I will send away my army."

This document is found in our archive of Ministry of Foreign Affairs.Pr Yalçıntaş is making a resarch on this issue also so you can be sure that this is real.

And I want to add that not only Che Guevera but also other leaders knows that Atatürk is a great leader.

"History has seen many great people. It has seen Alexander the Great's, Napoleon's, Washington's. However, in the twentieth century the record for greatness was broken by Atatürk, this Turkish son of a Turk."

L'IIIustration Newspaper, France

"I obtained information concerning Mustafa Kemal from someone who knows him very well. When talking with Foreign Minister Litvinov of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, he said that in his opinion, the most valuable and interesting statesman in all of Europe does not live in Europe today, but beyond the Bosphorus, he lives in Ankara, and that this was the President of the Turkish Republic, Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk."

Franklin D. Roosevelt, President of the United States of America

"Atatürk's death is not only a loss for the country, but for Europe is the greatest loss, he who saved Turkey in the war and who revived a new the Turkish nation after the war. The sincere tears shed after him by all classes of people is nothing other than an appropriate manifestation to this great hero and modern Turkey's Ata."

Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom

"Mustafa Kemal was not a socialist. But it can be perceived that he is a good organizer, with great understanding, progressive, with good thoughts and an intelligent leader. He is carrying out a war of independence against those plunderers. I am believing that he will break the pride of the imperialists and that he will beat the Sultan together with his friends. (1921 )"

Vladimir llyich Lenin, Leader of the Russian Revolution

"In connection with the permanent memorial facility for Kemal Atatürk, I take pride in presenting my congratulations to Turkey. Your great country that is advancing on the course that he demonstrated has obtained very significant successes. This ceremony that is being held to commemorate the memory of Atatürk, the architect of progress and Turkish unity, is a very appropriate respect to a person who became a source of inspiration to free peoples throughout the world."

Dwight D. Eisenhower, President of the United States of America

"The name of Atatürk reminds people of the historical successes of one of the great individuals of this century, the leadership that gave inspiration to the Turkish nation, farsightedness in the understanding of the modern world and courage and power as a military leader. It is without a doubt that another example can't be shown indicating greater successes than the birth of the Turkish Republic and ever since then Atatürk's and Turkey's broad and deep reforms undertaken as well as the confidence of a nation in itself."

John F. Kennedy, President of the United States of America

"Kemal Atatürk or Kemal Pasha by which name we knew him in those times, was my hero during my youth. I was very moved when I read about his great reforms. I met with great praise the general efforts made by Atatürk on the course of modernizing Turkey. His dynamism, undauntedness and unawareness of fatigue created a great effect on people. He was one of the builders of the modern age in the orient. I continue to be among his greatest admirers."

Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India

"We feel a great admiration for Atatürk in his efforts towards ensuring the modernization of Turkish society by separating religion and politics from each other and by carrying out the Turkish Language Reforms."

Hayato Ikeda, Prime Minister of Japan

"In our times, it is Atatürk who brought Turkey to its current status as a modern republic with his farsighted and courageous political, social and economic reforms. At the same time, it was also he that prepared the foundation of the modern economy that will ensure today Turkey's attaining the strength to be able to enter the European Economic Community."

Joseph Luns, Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Netherlands

"He was a military-statesman, one of the greatest leaders of our era. He ensured that Turkey got its rightful place among the most advanced nations. Also, he gave the feeling of support and self-confidence to the Turks, that forms the foundation stone of a nation's greatness. I take great pride in being one of Atatürk's loyal friends."

General Douglas MacArthur, Commander-in-Chief of the Far East Forces, U.S.A.

"The West and the East came face to face at the second class coastal town of Mudanya on a crooked road covered with dust on the hot Marmara coast. Despite the English flag ship "Iron-Duke's" ash-colored deathly turrets that transported the Allied generals for negotiations with Ismet Pasha, the Westerners had come here to beg for peace, not to ask for peace or to dictate the conditions… These negotiations demonstrate the end of Europe's dominance over Asia, because as everyone knows, Mustafa Kemal got rid of all the Greeks."

Ernest Hemingway, American Journalist and Novelist

"The world, by no means and at no time, has witnessed such an exciting event as the re-founding of Turkey with a Western point of view and belief."

Social Demokraten Newspaper, Sweden

"In no other country have women advanced this rapidly. It is truly an unique event in history for a nation to change to this degree."

Daily Telegraph Newspaper, England

"The Sakarya Battle, the Sakarya Victory became the strongest recollection when I was twenty.

At that time I said to myself, I wonder whether or not I can mobilize my country like this? Can I not instill in his spirit this delivering attack, this unreined passion?"

Habib ben Ali Bourguiba, President of Tunisia

"In 1918…Turkey was a defeated nation seemingly in irreparable collapse.

Today, twenty years later, we see a nation on the borders of Europe and Asia, economically and culturally prosperous, once again important internationally, and profiting from peaceful relations with all its neighbors."

Gyulaa Kornis, Speaker of the Hungarian Parliament

02:33 PM Nov 13 2008 |




so, a person who worships a grave is not a muslim?

What about sufis what about shias? 


I strongly scent a Wahhabi ideology here

03:49 PM Nov 14 2008 |




Ahaa.. It is a kind behavior. But  Believe me, just not Ataturk, all people would save Muhammed's grave..

There are 2 reason to save it.

1> It is so historical

2> Muhammed is holy for Islam

So a Christian or Atheist too, would save his grave… It is a big thing :S





Heyy Marrix… U know wronge about Ataturk..Let Turkish ppl to introduce him..Be sure, We know better than you Who is Ataturk…!

He was a Turkish… Definitely Turkish.. He was born in Selanik.. (Selanik is a city of Greek now)

But when Ataurk was born, it was a Turkish land.. I don't know why but all ppl think that He was a Greek..

He is not… He is a Turkish..but just was born a city of Greek.. But when he was born it was a Turkish land..


And don't forget.. Turkish Ottomans had about 3 continents…  But you can't say a person that he is a Greek becoz of that he was born in a Greek city…


Selanik is a Greek city for about 80-85 years…But before it, It was a Turkish land… a Turkish city!

So plss make correct ur sentence..Ataturk is a Turkish



04:08 PM Nov 14 2008 |




2.Abdulhameet didn't let Turkish ppl to save their country from Europan countries.. 

Maybe he was in trouble..We can't guess what he thoguht.. So i never said that i hate him.. And i can't say it too..

But Turkish ppl live for their freedom in all history.. So to live in a mandate of others, is the worst thing for them..



what I know about ataturk that he is an orginally greek not pure Turkish and helped jewish to endemic palestine and Isolated 2nd Abdulhameed the sultan because he prohibted jewish to be in palestine.


That's %100 and more than %100 WRONGE…!

And i have never heard is from a person… You are 1. :P 


04:14 PM Nov 14 2008 |