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French President Sarkozy speaks out against burka

fabs1

fabs1

United Kingdom

 

Susan Sachs

Paris — From Tuesday's Globe and Mail, Monday, Jun. 22, 2009 09:40PM EDT

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Five years after outlawing Muslim head scarves in public schools, French lawmakers are taking aim at the face-covering niqab and burka, calling the garments an “ambulatory prison” for women.

On Monday, President Nicolas Sarkozy added his support to a resolution in the National Assembly that would open an inquiry into whether the state should prohibit women from wearing the garments outside their homes.

During a speech before both houses of parliament that was otherwise devoted to the economy, Mr. Sarkozy attacked the niqab as “a sign of subjugation, of degradation of women” that is not welcome in France.

He stopped short of endorsing an outright ban, as called for by one of the most prominent Muslim women in his cabinet.

But he said the issue should be debated openly, and made his own views clear. “We cannot accept in our country that women are prisoners behind a screen, cut off from all social contact, deprived of all identity,” he said.

In the French secular tradition, public spaces – whether schools, government buildings or even the street – are supposed to be neutral zones where differences of religion and identity are not displayed.

Last year, for example, the country's highest administrative court refused to grant citizenship to a niqab-wearing Moroccan woman married to a Frenchman. The court said that wearing the garment, which often leaves only a slit for her eyes, demonstrated that the woman rejected French values.

While the burka debate is at an early stage, prominent Muslim leaders warned that any attempt to regulate how Muslims, or anyone else in France, can dress, could backfire and feed resentment among Muslims who already feel alienated.

The French Muslim Council said that even convening a special inquiry commission would “once again seriously stigmatize Islam and French Muslims.”

Dalil Boubakeur, the moderate head of the main Paris mosque, described the burka as a radical import that is alien to the tradition of Islam. But a debate over whether to outlaw it, he said, may inevitably create tensions by suggesting that Muslims have not or cannot integrate into French society.

The niqab is commonly worn by women in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, and more recently has been adopted by the fundamentalist Salafist movement in North Africa. In France, the word is often used interchangeably with burka, the tent-like garment with a mesh face cover that many Afghan women wear.

 

 

No particular incident involving French Muslims set off the demand for a study of the pros and cons of a ban on either garment. But one spark may have been a comment made by Mr. Sarkozy two weeks ago, during the D-Day commemorations in Normandy.

He said then that he agreed with U.S. President Barack Obama that the wearing of the Muslim head scarf poses no problem for Western societies if it represents a woman's free choice.

Critics said Mr. Sarkozy's remarks were a contradiction of French law, which prohibits the wearing of obvious religious symbols like the head scarf in public schools and by government employees who deal directly with the public.

A week later, a Communist deputy representing a suburban Lyon district introduced a resolution in the National Assembly calling the burka and other face-obscuring garments like the niqab a “degrading garment” that effectively negates a woman's citizenship.

More than 80 deputies have since signed on to the resolution to set up a parliamentary commission.

France has one of the largest Muslim populations in Europe, estimated at around 5 million people, mainly of North African origin. While women in head scarves are a common sight, the more extreme body-enveloping clothing is relatively new and much less widespread.

Its appearance has already caused alarm, however.

Unlike in Britain and Germany, where similar proposals have provoked fierce debate over freedom of religious choice, the French prohibition on head scarves in school has functioned with little controversy since its enactment in 2004.

Women's groups, led by Muslim activists, lobbied for the law as a way to protect girls who might be forced, by family or peer pressure, to wear the head scarf. The debate over the burka and niqab has taken similar shape.

 

 

We must not fight the wrong battle. In the republic, the Muslim faith must be respected as much as other religions
Nicolas Sarkozy,
French President

 

 

“Overall, the women who wear the burka, who have their very existence confiscated, are victims,” said Fadela Amara, the Secretary of State for Urban Affairs and an outspoken advocate of a ban.

The appearance of women covered in all-enveloping robes and with scarves covering all but their eyes, she has said, is a sign of “the concrete presence of fundamentalism on our soil.”

Ms. Amara, the daughter of Algerian immigrants, led the campaign to ban the wearing of the head scarf in schools when she was the head of a women's group, Ni Putes Ni Soumises, which works with Muslim women in the tough French housing projects.

Sihem Habchi, the woman who took Ms. Amara's place as president of the group, said France has since “let down its guard out of fear” and is allowing Muslim fundamentalism to threaten its secular ideals.

A parliamentary commission, she added, should broaden its investigation beyond the burka and look at the decisions made by some French cities, responding to pressure from Muslim groups, to provide separate facilities for men and women at public swimming pools and gyms.

But other commentators have been hesitant about legislating the type of clothing that can be worn in public. “It's an aggression against the dignity of women – symbolic, but an aggression nevertheless,” said Laurent Joffrin, editor of the leftwing newspaper, Libération. “But is this the way to deal with it?”

Special to The Globe and Mail

 

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Any thoughts on this?

 

02:01 AM Jun 23 2009 |

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gkisseberth

Colombia

I think he's wrong about this.

 

Unless there are legitimate and overwhelming concerns of public safety, public health, or possibly decency (always subject to interpretation) no government should legislate the clothes people can or cannot wear in public.

02:25 AM Jun 23 2009 |

pop272001

pop272001

Indonesia

I give a  question:

what do U want to see, and which one will make people 'shocked' in public area : Girl wears BURka OR Girl doesn't wear anything / NUde..Smile

04:45 AM Jun 23 2009 |

fabs1

fabs1

United Kingdom

Why does it have to be either one or the other?

04:48 AM Jun 23 2009 |

gkisseberth

Colombia

I'm fine with either one, pop  ;)

04:49 AM Jun 23 2009 |

:-(

India

Sarkozi has issued the dress code, but wonder, what would he do if Muslim women disobeyed the Fatwa?

I think he should ask Talibaanz!

 

04:55 AM Jun 23 2009 |

fabs1

fabs1

United Kingdom

"Clearly, this is one of the jewish conspiracies"

Yes, them jooz are behind everything.

05:31 PM Jun 23 2009 |

gkisseberth

Colombia

Darwin and the Juice. 

 

Cause of all evil or the next Buddy-Cop Movie from Michael  Bay? 

06:00 PM Jun 23 2009 |

elenochka

elenochka

Belarus

WHY european women that go to muslim country should follow the rules relating to clothes, while muslim women on the other hand coming to europe, do whatever they want! they should also follow the rules of the country where they stay! and i think Sarkozy is right

06:03 PM Jun 23 2009 |

adamabraham99

United Kingdom

There are a few angles to this agenda… First and foremost this is a just another vog in the machine they are trying to build to surpress Islam, but it will backfire just like evrything else, and the people who are treated unjustly, they will be rewarded in the next life, becuase the Allah is most just.

Secondly, Why do we have laws in general? usually to protect each other envirnmoent and for justice, so weaker and not opressed etc.

The scarf is for women to be modest, I feel uncomfortable with complete strangers staring at my mum or sister or wife, if she was half naked, and the guy is drooling over her, any chnace he gets he would do whatever he wants, spreading aids, causing problrems etc.

Therefore the Perfect Lord has commanded women to cover their head infront of strangers, to protet them, teh same way you protect Gold, our women are worht more than that, we know how you much you value yours.

Finally, once women realise this, THEY ACTAULLY WANT TO WEAR THE SCARF, and cover more out of there own chiuce, how can you argue or ban that?

09:59 PM Jun 23 2009 |

pop272001

pop272001

Indonesia

Gkiss: I knew that u will choose either one..No doubt!!Laughing

01:49 AM Jun 24 2009 |