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US Org. Hosts Cancer Meet, Israelis not Welcome



US Org. Hosts Cancer Meet, Israelis not Welcome 
by Maayana MiskinA United States-based organization's conference on breast cancer awareness, to be hosted in Egypt, has been touted by international news networks as an example of “unprecedented cooperation” in the region. However, according to Channel 2 news, the celebration of unity may be premature, as Israeli doctors were told at the last minute that their invitations to participate had been rescinded.

Israeli doctors were invited to the event as well, and several had planned to attend. However, on Sunday night, the doctors received brief notices telling them that they were no longer invited to the conference, by order of Egyptian Health Minister Hatem el-Gabali.The conference will be held in Alexandria, Egypt this week, under the auspices of the American group Susan G. Komen for the Cure – the world's largest breast cancer advocacy organization. It is to include meetings between leading researchers from the U.S. and several Mideast countries.

The notices did not include an explanation of Gabali's decision.

Despite the cancellation of the Israeli presence at the event, Egyptian officials continued to praise the event as an example of regional cooperation. “The week's events are a demonstration of the cooperation between countries, governments, civil society, advocates, survivors, and the global community as a whole,” Dr. Mohammed Shaalan of Egypt's Breast Cancer Foundation told Reuters on Monday. “It shows that breast cancer has no boundaries and reveals the beauty of the world's unity in its fight against breast cancer.”

09:08 PM Oct 20 2009 |

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:-(  , I think keeping the doctors out of Gaza seems unfair to those doctors as well. 


Was there any follow up to that story?  


Why does it seem clear to you that the doctors going to the conference in Egypt were being sent for diplomtic needs, or even that they were being sent at all? It sounds like they were invited, and not working for the government. If you know more about it, please share. 

12:27 PM Oct 22 2009 |





01:57 PM Oct 22 2009 |



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actually, all muslims considers themselves in war with Israel

Bullshit. You don't speak for all Muslims, nor do the rest of the Arabs speak for all Muslims.

Sorry to tell you this, but I know a good number of Muslims that do not consider themselves at war with Israel and are more interested in their daily lives and peace.


they lived as minority and  Community, not more.

They were the majority population of the land before the Exile. At present they are again the majority population of Israel, as things should have been all along.


eumm, it seems that you had good Geographers before 2500 years ago, to build this map.

actually, some Jews claim more, with this map .

Bringing up what 'some Jews' apparently claim is just a red herring, a way of changing the subject. Israel is not claiming those territories and never has.

If anything Israel has given up territories that were previously under its control.


Back to the original topic, there are at least a dozen Jewish States that predate the Exile, so you saying that Jews and Israel are strangers to the region is utter nonsense and any historian will agree.


so, the culture of Jews follow the region that they were living in, but a common culture and tradition.

That's not true. Jewish culture and practices have always been distinct in some shape or form from the dominant culture of the countries they lived in.

Hence why Jews have always remained a seperate people and cultural entity throughout the Exile.

The Yiddish language for instance, has so many distinct Hebrew words in it that no speaker of German or Russian can understand what is being said just from their native languages.

and it's not over.

Oh, it's over. The Arabs have lost and they're basically prolonging this entire conflict.

Israel is still there and won't be going anywhere.


A state built over our people, from throwing it, and denying its rights in its land, that would never be accepted, and over our holy Land.

The Arabs started the war and invited the refugees to come into their territory. What did you expect? 

The only 'fault' I can find with Israel is that they didn't just give up and surrender to the Arabs.


All of land of Palestine, is  Islamic Waqf, and all the Muslims own this land, and have the right i this land.

The Arabs have no more claim to 'Palestine' or Israel then they do to Spain or Vienna.


If the Jews want the peace, they have forget this state, mean make it end, or we will make that.

Jewish claims to the land predate Islam. The land is central to Judaism and to the Jewish people. To sort of claim a monopoly on it and force Jews to give it up is just plain wrong.








04:50 PM Oct 22 2009 |



United Kingdom

Any arabhamid, I'll give you the equivalent situation from my standpoint.


Imagine, for argument's sake, the Russians invaded Saudi Arabia, expelled every man, woman and child from the country and scattered them across the world.

During this time, Zulu tribes moved into the region of Saudi Arabia, massively emigrating to Mecca, then decided to build a large religious building right on top of the Kaaba. 

Then about a thousand years later, people say to the expelled Arabs and their descendants, 'you people aren't from the region, you've live in, say, Turkmenistan or Europe for the past while, therefore you people have nothing to do with Arabia.

Would the Arabians have a right to their homeland in some shape or form? Especially considering if they kept their religious practices and ethnic identity and connection to the land as a holy place? I would say yes.

The same goes for Jews and the Land of Israel, with Jerusalem as the holiest city of the faith.

05:06 PM Oct 22 2009 |



Any arabhamid, I'll give you the equivalent situation from my standpoint.

Then about a thousand years later, people say to the expelled Arabs and their descendants, 'you people aren't from the region, you've live in, say, Turkmenistan or Europe for the past while, therefore you people have nothing to do with Arabia.

Was then, according to ur logic (I dissent), Hitler justified for 'expelling' 'outsiders' from their's land?

11:14 AM Oct 23 2009 |



United Kingdom

Was then, according to ur logic (I dissent), Hitler justified for 'expelling' 'outsiders' from their's land?


I have no idea what you're asking.

If it's the usual 'Israelis are acting like Hitler' jab, spare me.

06:45 PM Oct 23 2009 |



United Kingdom

the Quran talks for all Muslims, and tells them what they have to do when someone force them to leave their home or occupy their lands and kill them.

And it is only from your interpretation, and those of other political appliers of the religion, that this verse means attacking Israel.

A verse like this can be interpreted anyway you want.

I believe its verses like this that allowed Osama Ben Laden to get religious backing to stage 911. 

Indeed this verse probably gives carte blanche to all terrorist groups. 'Kill them wherever you find them' is a verse that will go down in history for sure. 

Thanks for posting it.


Before the jewish kingdoms, there were not a majority, there were a few people, and for a long time before their appearance, the Cananites were living there, with Phyniciens in the north, and all those were our people.

And before the Israelites returned from Egypt with Moses, Jacob and his 10 sons lived in the land. And before them, Isaac lived there. And before Abraham who traveled all the way by gds command from Ur Kassdim, to the land that Gd had promised him and his descendants through Isaac. That is where the claims to the land come from.

Whether the Canaanites moved in there during the later time of slavery in Egypt is also irrelevant.


the Cananites were living there, with Phyniciens in the north, and all those were our people.

Post-colonial pseudo-history can claim anything. There is no historian that says that Arabs are descended from the Canaanites. This is hopeful speculation.

You have more historians that will say that the Israelites and the Canaanites were the same people.


Jews were given the land, and it says so explicitly in Torah in each of the books. And unlike what Islam seems to tell you, Gd does not change his mind or his judgements.


with few commons. and they were near of the nations where they were living . 

Jews across the world have the things in common that identify themselves as Jews. That is what counts. Any characteristic of a distinct nation or people or culture, Jews have and have had.

Yes, they lived in different parts of the world and were apart of the society, yet kept many of their customs, names. laws etc etc…

Millenia of exile, or any small period of Exile changes people. Ask any refugee or immigrant population.


Everything has its time, and it will come the time to declare the Jihad in Palestine, and there nobody in the world can prevent muslims to take it back, because it's part of our religion, and there is noway to let it down.

if you go just to Indunessia, and tell them that Jihad is opened for whom want to go there, you would find 20 million ready for that, and that goes for all islamic countries, all what we want is dying for our lands and for allah.


How many Jihads have people called against Israel in the last 60 years?

One tin-pot group after another, generally without as you imply, millions of Muslims gathering behind a banner and marching for Jerusalem.


we fought against people who came from outside to take our lands, and to destroy our life and force us to leave our lands, and plan to destroy Al-aqsa and build thing called Temple.

When has the Israeli government ever planned to destroy the mosque and rebuild the Temple?

No government in Israel has been religious so far.


We allow the Jews to live them, but this land must be under our control and our rules,

Why should Muslims have sole control over it? That is what you mean, I'm guessing.





07:05 PM Oct 23 2009 |



for anyone still interested in story in the original post, the host organization has reversed itself and will allow the Israeli doctors to attend. 



02:05 AM Oct 25 2009 |



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Cananites and phyniciens who lived there, and for a period more long that any other nation.

How are you so sure? Recorded history says nothing or little about the Canaanites.

Whatever the case it was Gd's judgement that the land be given to the Israelites and that is what happened.


If we try to acount the period that the Israelites could controle the centre, it would be around 400 years, maybe little less or more.

In between the Exiles, small amounts of Jews still remained in the land, not everyone was taken away. 

THerefore you can't just cut off these periods of habitation. It remains continuous, only with different kingdoms with different names. The people however remain constant.

 Againt the 1000 BC does not count Abraham living in the land with his sons, promised to him by Gd.



in the other hand, the Arabs and Muslims contoled the religion for a period about 1300 years.

And Jews nonetheless in small numbers still remained in the land, while most were exiled. You again can't just cut off claims because changes in the political situation.

Again the Muslims conquered the province from the Romans, who conquered it from the Jews. By default, the Muslims are simply the conquerors of the conquerors.



during the history, some people joined this religion in many places, and some got lost their religion, with the time, the Jwish people can't be remained by the Israelites.

Just because some people joined, doesn't mean that these people are not entitled to the same rights and status. And it doesn't detract either from the rights of those who are genetically Jewish, as the DNA tests show, this includes the vast majority of European Jews. who mostly in earlier days mixed with local women. 

The Ashkenazi Jews are genetically from the Middle East and every DNA test has proven this so far.

When it comes to the Sephardi and Mizrachi Jews, who make up the majority in the Israel, their origins are obvious as well.


When those deny the Islam and Christianity, they don't stop here, but go far, and deny their rights for what is holy for that, and that make them do all what we want.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but the Israeli governant has been the only ruler of the land that has given full rights of worship to ALL of the religions.

When the land was last under Arab control Jews did not have these same rights and could not visit the Kotel.

When they deny Islam, they deny any right of muslims in the holy land, and that make the mission essier for them, to plan and do what they want.

It has nothing to do with religion. Muslims in Israel practice freely.


from throwing arabs and muslims, and planning to destroy their holy places.

And there is no proof of any of this beyond your suspicions.

What some extremist Jews have plotted to do in the past is different from what the Israeli government has as a policy.

I remember around 10 or 20 years ago, there was a plot by some radical Jews to blow up the mosques on the Temple Mount. Who stopped that do you think?




02:19 AM Oct 26 2009 |



United Kingdom

mean, when we're attacked by others, when they occupy our lands, when they try to kill us, with that, from our duties as muslims to defend ourselves.

From what I remember from a CNN documentary about Osama Ben Laden, he got written authorization from an Olama that he could attack the USA based on this passge. The USA was apparently 'occupying' land in Saudi Arabia so therefore he was allowed to do this.


thos man doesn't need quran to attack, he's extremist, and interprete Quran as his desires tell him and his mind.

I see no difference between him and groups like Hamas or Hezbollah, except that they've taken on the USA and therefore it is widely unpopular for any country to say that they agree with them.

The 2 other groups attack civilians and use religion as a way to achieve their violent aims.

You say Ben Laden is an extremist? Well what is the difference between an extremist and a freedom fighter? Just that you agree with one cause while disagreeing with the other.


the enemies of Muslims try to make muslims forget Jihad and stop it by all ways, and from the ways that they're using, is to attach Jihad to terrorism, and everyone try to make Jihad call him terrorist, to make muslims leave one of thir duties.

 And who are these enemies that are doing that? Who are you referring to?


 !torah talk about changing mind, and how allah got tired i the seven day and had rest, so the interpretation could be wrong or something like that.

It doesn't say He got tired. It says that He stopped creating on that day.


tike an exemple, if Boudists poeple moved to America, and after 100 years, there are 100.000 joined them, and adapted their culture and religion and customs, and after 1000 years, they say that they're all from India, and they kept their culture.

Buddhism is not anything comparable. Buddhism is a religion and nothing more.

Judaism is attached to 'being Jewish', it's the ensemble of all the traditions and beliefs of Jews. Only Jews practice Judaism, whereas Chinese, Vietnamese, Indians, Japanese and Korean practice Buddhism.


actually, we learn from Jews that they don't say what they want to do, they hide that, and about government, it's not necessary it did that, but let the opportunity to other groupes to do that and protect them, as time to time, they try to make some jews go into Aqsa mosque, and proptect them.

You explain the world in conspiracy theories.


yes, total control, as it was during the past, and that doesn't mean that other religions don't have rights, but they have all rights, and you know very well that jews had their rights under muslims.

In the past it was Jewish. It was the Jewish holy land before the other two religions laid claim to it as theirs.

It should remain in the hands of its original owners as it is now, while of course allowing the other religions to practice in their holy places. That is what is happening now.

02:42 AM Oct 26 2009 |