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our life is as a circle, we start from a certain point and walk in a trip till we reach the end which is almoste the same point of beggining…its not strang to meet the same people in our life coz we live in a circle….the srang is too meet new people , love them , share them in everything and feel happiness with them then in a moment leave them coz of ur destiny…

we are toys and destiny  controls everything even our movement…we are not independent coz we can’t take a deccision…we do what destiny want…by our will or against our will, we have to accept and don’t try to change coz NO WAY..destiny is stronger than our love, our thinking and our feelings…so why do we love and feel happiness or pain why and we know that love or happiness will be ended in any moment….WHY we insist to harm ourselves and ones we love

I agree.  I love surfing and I’ve found when I try to fight the ocean, it’s more difficult.  But, when I just relax and “go with the flow”, things become more natural and seem to work out better.  

I try to apply this to my life, as well.  Not easy, but what is?

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gotravelenglish: life wants us to fight it..to be sronger so we can live…life is full of suffering but little happiness….when we fight the life we feel tierd but after this we will relax…hope the best for u

Hi everybody! I think of DESTINY and FATE too often, because I am a fighter by my nature but I had to surrender so often as it was just fate! But let me say this: if you just believe and accept living according to FATE it’s a wrong decision, i.e. if I were born in a poor family or disabled, does it mean I have to be poor or forget about any fun and enjoyment in my life due to my disabilities??? Just because it’s my fate??? Or shall I make efforts and try my best or fight the ocean to make my life better? the same with love or friendship – we meet people, we lose them but mostly it depends on us whether we will be with them together for long or not. Life is a fight and the more you fight the stronger you are.

Yeah… I agree with you Julie3…
It’s us who make or ruin fates…
(IN SUCH TYPES OF SITUATIONS…)

Leaving everything on our fates or destinies is according to me just like as
If I’m gonna jump from the top of a building & say that…
‘LET’S CHECK IS IT MY DESTINY TO DIE…???’

If I died then it wasn’t my destiny to die…
It was just the ‘RESULT…’ of my acts…

Strong people always believe that whatever happens…
happens with having a reason behind it…
& THERE’S ALWAYS A PERSON BEHIND THAT REASON…
RATHER THAN OUR FATE OR DESTINY…

You know Rockyy, it’s a quite difficult issue, some time ago I had a dispute on this topic, shared opinions but life is so diversitive in situations and examples…like you know, you say: I’m gonna jump from a skyscraper and check whether it’s my destiny to die…the reason behind is your good will to jump and see (possibility to stay alive 1%)ok, I agree. But for example, there is a kid of 5 years old and parents find out he\she is going to die due to, for example, cancer. Is it his\her destiny or there is someone or something behind? As I was told there are things we cannot control, like death, but there are things we can influence\affect by taking decisions and making efforts. Just we want to believe that all is possible and we can change the world by our will.

My Dear Julie3…
I knew I’d be having examples like this when I said…
‘IT’S US WHO MAKE OR RUIN OUR FATES…’

but I guess you didn’t read attentively what I wrote right after that verse that…
‘IN SUCH TYPES OF SITUATION…’

Ofcourse there are many things that are beyond of our reach to change…
But you see… There’s still a long debate not on Destiny exists or not…
The point should be that What should ‘WE…’ do if whether it exists or not…

The child you talked about in your example…
was obviously not mistaken…
but may be any of his Parents had that disease…?
or may be he used something that caused Cancer…?

I wanna give you example too…
& IT’S A TRUE EXAMPLE…

I met a kid in my Organization… who had A.I.D.S…
He didn’t even know what is A.I.D.S or how much harmful it could be…
So surely it wasn’t his mistake…
& most of people would say that it’s his destiny behind his disease…
but what I found… was that his Father was behind his disease…
CUZ HE HAD A.I.D.S & HIS SON INHERITED THIS DISEASE…

& even his destiny was not the one who threw him at the doorsteps of A.I.D.S…
It was him who used to inject drugs…
Now you can say that ‘May be it was written in his destiny to inject drugs…’
but a Neutral Analysis says that It was him…
Cuz things could be different only If he stopped himself to inject drugs…

& everytime I meet those who always blame ‘Fate… Destiny… Luck…’
for everything bad happens with them…
I ask to all of them…

WHEN YOU GET ILL… YOU CONSULT A GOOD DOCTOR…
DO YOU EVER THINK THAT MAY BE YOUR FATE IS TO BE ILL…?
OR IT’S WRITTEN IN YOUR DESTINY TO BE UNREACHABLE TO THE DOCTOR…?
No… You ‘TRY…’ your best to find a CURE…
YOU DON’T LEAVE IT ON YOUR DESTINY…

WHEN YOU GO TO THE DOCTORS…
AFTER CHECKING YOU…
HOW MANY DOCTORS WOULD SAY THAT…
‘I’M SORRY IT’S IN YOUR FATE TO BE ILL…
OR IT’S WRITTEN IN YOUR DESTINY TO BE UNCURABLE…’
NOT EVEN A SINGLE ONE…
what do they do…?
they ‘TRY…’ to provide you a proper medication…
THEY DON’T LEAVE IT ON YOUR DESTINY…

WHEN YOU GO FOR AN INTERVIEW…
DO YOU REALLY DELIBERATELY STAY AT HOME…
THINKING THAT IF THAT JOB IS IN YOUR FATE…
OR IS WRITTEN IN YOUR DESTINY THEN THAT JOB WILL COME TO YOU ITSELF…
KNOCK YOUR DOOR & WOULD SAY…
‘HEY… WANNA HAVE ME…?’
NO… NEVER…
What do you do then…?
you ‘TRY…’ your best to reach on time…
YOU DON’T LEAVE IT ON YOUR DESTINY…

& NOW THE MOST COMMON EXAMPLE THAT YOU CAN FIND EVERYWHERE…

WHEN YOU FALL IN LOVE…
DO YOU LEAVE YOUR FUTURE ON YOUR FATE OR DESTINY WHILE SITTING IN A CLOSED ROOM THINKING THAT…
‘IF HIS/HER LOVE IS WRITTEN IN MY DESTINY OR IT’S MY FATE TO GET HIM…
THEN HE/SHE WILL BREAK ALL THE WALLS & DOORS TO GET ME…’?
NO…
WHAT DO YOU DO THEN…?
YOU ‘TRY…’ TO PLAN THE BEST FOR YOU WITH A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING…
You just keep trying to do everything that could make you both nearer…
YOU NEVER LEAVE IT ON FATE OR DESTINY…

So in every field of your life…
YOU KEEP TRYING… RATHER THAN LEAVING THINGS ON YOUR LUCK…
Cuz keep trying is the only way to survive… in every field of life…

Cuz NO ONE knows what’s his/her fate… or what’s written in his/her destiny…
SO HOW CAN WE BLAME OUR FATE WHEN WE DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT’S WRITTEN THERE…?

If I close myself in a room… & say that…
‘I WON’T EAT ANYTHING BY MYSELF…
FOOD WILL BE IN MY MOUTH ITSELF IF IT’S IN MY FATE…’

Would you like to call me a WISE PERSON…?

I guess I’d be Hungry untill & unless I GET UP… OPEN THE DOOR…
GO TO THE FOOD…

SO WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO BELIEVE IN…?
KEEP TRYING… OR WAITING FOR THINGS HAPPENING IF THAT ARE IN YOUR FATE…???

& really… (ACCORDING TO ME…)
blaming my fate for everything bad happened with me is just ‘AS ILLOGICAL AS…’ it would be If my love sent me a love letter…
& I didn’t read it but quit everything with her…
& BLAME HER FOR BREAK UP…
WITHOUT READING OR KNOWING WHAT WAS WRITTEN OVER THERE FOR ME…

i respect ur opinion dear julie and i think u r riht…we have to fight and fight, this will help us to be stronger than life but we must notice that life is short and shorter than our attempts to live….am with u that we should fight but till when?till we lose or health or become 60 years old??

we are the game of fate…..we are ppl but fate controlls our life…

rockyy ….....

Dear rocky, believe me, it is the best motivational comment i have seen anywhere ever, n you know i was a bit 50/50 about this topic that trying continuously may be not more important than what is fate or it is, but now i believe that it is realy more important, if anyone still believe that fate is more important than trying then may be it is useless to try to convince more than your explanation, thank you my bro. :)

badly sad: we missed you my brother….anyway i know what do u mean…got it..

attempts, luck and fate….is there any connection????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!