do you believe in god

do you think that god is exist?.......why do u think that?

be open mind  and let us share our thoughts about this complex subject.

I don't know Justic, I think I was under the impression that Islam does not encourage that somewhat alternative spiritual thinking.


I think you'll like this poem:

Can death be sleep, when life is but a dream,
 And scenes of bliss pass as a phantom by?
The transient pleasures as a vision seem,
 And yet we think the greatest pain's to die.

How strange it is that man on earth should roam,
 And lead a life of woe, but not forsake
His rugged path; nor dare he view alone
 His future doom which is but to awake.

John Keats

Your welcome, have fun translating. :)

okay oonah

If you mean a brain, yes I have a brain. I don't believe there is a soul, I think that is fiction. 

no i mean the mind, there is a difference btw mind and brain .. all people have brain but not all of them are sane..

people those who have mind can think and discriminate ..  

well, what is the difference btw sane and insane ppl .. both have brain ?! ..

@oonah

"I don't know Justic, I think I was under the impression that Islam does not encourage that somewhat alternative spiritual thinking"

Please read about sufism. This is keeping islam alive. and is wonderful

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism

This is all about spirituality in islam. The "Wahabi" fraction of islam are hell bound to destry sufism. You must remember that the people who converted to islam in non arab areas were "zorastrians", "Hindus", and "Bhuddists". Some bits of their traditions have percolated into modern society.

For example:- In india, Sufi's sing songs using musical instuments to god.This tradition has come from singing bhajans(religious songs) in hindu tempels. This traditions against "Wahhabi" philosophy.

"Wahhabi" don;t even consider indian(pakistanis and bangladeshis included), afgans, shias, and indonesians muslims  as muslims at all.

also Rise in extreamism among muslims is attributed to rise in wahabbism in the world. Wahhabi's have oil money which they lend to build mosques in other countries.

@Justic

what you say is called "vedantic" philosophy, which is some thing similar to matrix. (We have to wake up from unreal world and look at the real world)."Although God is the absolute reality, the world has a relative reality".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta

this is not a islamic theory but a hindu theory. This is a product of "dwaita"( god is every where) philosophy and "adwaita" philosophy(there is only one god).The deeper you go into it, more interesting it gets to read 

Most people in indonesia follow a religion which is a mix of islam and hinduism, especially people of JAVA. This is the reason why whabbi's don;t like indonesian muslims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Indonesia

no i mean the mind, there is a difference btw mind and brain .. all people have brain but not all of them are sane..
people those who have mind can think and discriminate ..  
well, what is the difference btw sane and insane ppl .. both have brain ?! ..

Understand you now, mind... like reason, sanity...ok. Mind means sanity, you're right, its that brain and mind are synonyms too. :)


People that suffer from insanity usually have a disfunction in their brain. If there was nothing wrong there, medication would not help, but in many cases it does, so it clearly is a physical thing. I still don't see an argument in there for the existence of a soul.

Let me see if I got this right Java,

In short, there is a fraction of the Muslims that have a more "spiritual" approach to the Islam (from their earlier traditions/religions), and "mainstream" Islam doesn't like it?

i believe myself

I wish I could write as beautiful as him Ryo. :)

Such a powerful potion.

i belivie in ALLAH ..